GOP's AHCA aka Trump-RyanCare

[sheltiedave]

[QUOTE=ZeroJunk;357309]The problem then is the same as it is with the ACA. It is a one trillion dollar tax on the middle class.QUOTE]

Zero, would you please post your facts showing this? I ask because I posted my set of facts here... AGAIN

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/4944...5%3a00%3a00%27

Here is a nice little graph from the Congressional Budget Office, ZeroJunk. Do you again want to repeat that the middle class bear the brunt of ObamaCare costs? You are using the Republican strategy of projecting an improperly analyzed cause/effect relationship to achieve political talking points.

The middle class is bearing a larger PROPORTION of taxes, as the progressive nature of the tax base is reduced for the very wealthy(under the guise that the wealthy will magically transform into job creators,) while ignoring the fact that the middle class has seen a stagnant hourly wage over the past 45 years.

It is not taxes that are decimating the middle class, it is the lack of wealth transference coupled with earning stagnation. ACA is but a bandaid in the longterm economic process for the US.

Meanwhile, the wealthy are happily standing in line, eager for the coming tax cuts and increasing wealth disparity the Republicans are promising.

And please do provide your synopsis of that tax graph, specifically.

[Chicks]

...annnnndddd it's dead. Yay! They don't have the votes. Trump's signature accomplishments? Still zero.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Chicks

...annnnndddd it's dead. Yay! They don't have the votes. Trump's signature accomplishments? Still zero.

Get ready for a hissy fit from the idiot in chief, I guess.

[ZeroJunk]

[QUOTE=sheltiedave;357367]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

The problem then is the same as it is with the ACA. It is a one trillion dollar tax on the middle class.QUOTE]

Zero, would you please post your facts showing this? I ask because I posted my set of facts here... AGAIN

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/4944...5%3a00%3a00%27

Here is a nice little graph from the Congressional Budget Office, ZeroJunk. Do you again want to repeat that the middle class bear the brunt of ObamaCare costs? You are using the Republican strategy of projecting an improperly analyzed cause/effect relationship to achieve political talking points.

The middle class is bearing a larger PROPORTION of taxes, as the progressive nature of the tax base is reduced for the very wealthy(under the guise that the wealthy will magically transform into job creators,) while ignoring the fact that the middle class has seen a stagnant hourly wage over the past 45 years.

It is not taxes that are decimating the middle class, it is the lack of wealth transference coupled with earning stagnation. ACA is but a bandaid in the longterm economic process for the US.

Meanwhile, the wealthy are happily standing in line, eager for the coming tax cuts and increasing wealth disparity the Republicans are promising.

And please do provide your synopsis of that tax graph, specifically.

Your link does not work. But, although SCOTUS said it was a tax I don't think that insurance premiums show up as taxes.

I paid more than 25% of my gross income last year for health insurance. And, I am not the exception.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Get ready for a hissy fit from the idiot in chief, I guess.

Trump tweet: "Republicans should just REPEAL failing ObamaCare now & work on a new Healthcare Plan that will start from a clean slate. Dems will join in!"

Um, no. Idiot.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Chicks

...annnnndddd it's dead. Yay! They don't have the votes. Trump's signature accomplishments? Still zero.

So, if they do nothing are you going to blame the awaiting ACA implosion on Republicans ?

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

So, if they do nothing are you going to blame the awaiting ACA implosion on Republicans ?

They simply need to wake up, realize that ACA is VERY popular, and make the simple tweaks to fix it. Dems will be very happy to help.

[d-ray657]

[QUOTE=ZeroJunk;357373]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Your link does not work. But, although SCOTUS said it was a tax I don't think that insurance premiums show up as taxes.

I paid more than 25% of my gross income last year for health insurance. And, I am not the exception.

You have your FACTS wrong. The Court said that the penalty was a tax, not the premiums. That absolutely wipes out your argument that premiums are taxes. Premiums constitute the price people pay for medical coverage. The taxes are the penalty for people who do not buy insurance. If you can show figures that establish that more people paid penalties than paid for premiums, your argument might be less misleading, but I don't expect to see such data.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

So, if they do nothing are you going to blame the awaiting ACA implosion on Republicans ?

I would blame both parties; the Democrats for authoring and passing a bill that they knew was half assed expecting it to be fine tuned at a later time, and the Republicans for doing nothing other than trying to defund Obamacare for the last seven years.

May be now is when both parties can come together and rewrite a compromise healthcare act which will leave out extremes in both parties. Can either party take on the big pharma and the insurance companies? In a word, no.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I paid more than 25% of my gross income last year for health insurance. And, I am not the exception.

And you actually believed a con artist like Trump was going to change that?