GOP's AHCA aka Trump-RyanCare - Page 39

Chicks · #**381** 06-26-2017, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode

The CBO score is in - 22 million uninsured under Senate version of 'fuck off and die' TrumpCare.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.c9c7647d0930

I'm beginning to wonder whether the Repubes are crafting a bill so repugnant that it's sure to fail. They can then tell their idiot constituents that they tried to repeal Obamacare, but those darn Democrats "obstructed".

donquixote99 · #**382** 06-26-2017, 05:55 PM

No, the fix is already in. Four hyper-conservative superstar senators will sink it on the grounds that it isn't 'conservative enough.'

Having a majority, some number of Republicans have to vote against this (or not vote) to stop this thing. The Dems can't do it by themselves.

CarlV · #**383** 06-26-2017, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99

No, the fix is already in. Four hyper-conservative superstar senators will sink it on the grounds that it isn't 'conservative enough.'

Having a majority, some number of Republicans have to vote against this (or not vote) to stop this thing. The Dems can't do it by themselves.

That, and in all actuality, it is modified Obamacare. So instead of repeal and replace, it is repeal and steal and not even close to resembling campaign promises by our Liar-In-Chief.

icenine · #**384** 06-26-2017, 06:24 PM

Cruz isn't stupid. Opposing Obamacare is his justification for existence. He certainly doesn't want to take ownership of something he can be blamed for later. This way he can rail against it. I figure he may vote yes if there are enough no votes so he can tell his followers he fought bravely until the last.

sheltiedave · #**385** 06-26-2017, 06:28 PM

D-ray, I would venture that ACA has been a relative boon to some insurance companies, and definitely has led to a boomlet for medical care professionals. So, tangentially, a small boom for the wealthy.

Chicks · #**386** 06-26-2017, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99

Having a majority, some number of Republicans have to vote against this (or not vote) to stop this thing. The Dems can't do it by themselves.

Understood, but the idiots who voted for these slimeballs aren't the brightest bulbs. Their somnambulist master, Limbaugh, just needs to blame it on obstruction by the Dems, and they won't look any further; they don't read, thus are easily persuaded. Facts, schmatcs for Trump supporters.

bobabode · #**387** 06-26-2017, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlV

That, and in all actuality, it is modified Obamacare. So instead of repeal and replace, it is repeal and steal and not even close to resembling campaign promises by our Liar-In-Chief.

Yep. The Senate version is beyond cruel to the disabled and seniors. Heaven help those 60% of senior citizens in 'old folks homes' who depend on Medicaid to help pay for their board and care. That will all be gone by the time my wife and I will need it if this shit assed bill passes.

Fucking cruel and heartless doesn't begin to describe this Libertarian utopia envisioned by Paul Ryan, Turtle McConnell and Trump.

Ironic thing is Paul Ryan was a beneficiary of Social Security survivor benefits when his dad died early and Turtle McConnell was saved by the 'March of Dimes' when he had polio as a child.

Maybe Rev. Wright had a point when he said, "God damn America"? I dunno but it seems to fit living under a orange hued NY gangster slumlord and his willing accomplices in congress.

ZeroJunk · #**388** 06-26-2017, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 68custom

ironic you should mention the broken leg. today at the free clinic I volunteer at a man came in straight from the hospital. he broke his arm badly and the ER said it would require surgery. then they put him in a sling gave some pain meds and wished him good luck. you do realize that his break could become infected and he could die? the worst part of it is we have neither the money or an ortho DR to help the poor guy out. I suppose this is what you mean by treatment? time to change your opinion!

After 8 years of Obamacare. Worked really great didn't it.

CarlV · #**389** 06-26-2017, 07:28 PM

Worked a damn sight better than anything before it and it sure looks like anything after for certain.

nailer · #**390** 06-26-2017, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sheltiedave

D-ray, I would venture that ACA has been a relative boon to some insurance companies, and definitely has led to a boomlet for medical care professionals. So, tangentially, a small boom for the wealthy.

There's also the construction aspect with all those new emergency rooms and urgent care facilities sprouting up. In addition, there is the economic multiplication factor to consider.