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Old 03-17-2017, 09:26 AM
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He coming to the Derby City next week. I will be sure to avoid going anywhere during the visit.


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Old 03-17-2017, 09:49 AM
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Consumers Union (of Consumer Reports) weighs in on TrumpRyanCare:

— The replacement ensures broad enrollment in coverage. Grade: F
— Coverage must provide meaningful access to healthcare. Grade: F
— Coverage and healthcare marketplaces must be easy to navigate. Grade: F
— Reforms must address underlying reasons for high costs. Grade: F
— National standard that sets basic consumer protections. Grade: F


The American Health Care Act (AHCA) today received a failing grade from Consumers Union, the policy and mobilization arm of Consumer Reports. The consumer group sent a dismal report card to House members, along with a letter outlining the many failures of the health reform proposal. The report card comes the day before the House Budget Committee markup is scheduled.

We analyzed the American Health Care Act (AHCA) and have assigned it a failing grade. As proposed, the bill would lead to tens of millions of consumers losing their insurance coverage (with poorer health outcomes and more premature deaths as a result), higher premiums, deductibles and out-of-pocket costs for many others, devastating cuts to Medicaid, and incentives for healthy people to stay out of the insurance market altogether. This is not the future that Americans deserve and is, simply, unacceptable.

http://consumersunion.org/research/a...finance&wpmm=1
I'm shocked....SHOCKED....that the lefties at Consumers Union would trash this bill.
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:58 AM
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He coming to the Derby City next week. I will be sure to avoid going anywhere during the visit.


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I got a robocall inviting me to that. In Dayton. They are casting the net wide to try to fill the venue, it seems.....
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:33 AM
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I remember the GOP's arguments against the ACA were based on prices going up and people losing coverage. Seems now they wanted to be the ones doing it!


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Old 03-17-2017, 11:08 AM
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I'm shocked....SHOCKED....that the lefties at Consumers Union would trash this bill.
Consumer Reports is left-wing? Who knew? I guess they're partisan when reviewing dishwashers, coffee makers and car tires.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:13 AM
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Consumer Reports is left-wing? Who knew? I guess they're partisan when reviewing dishwashers, coffee makers and car tires.
Consumer Reports is fake news - in the Trumpian alternate universe.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:30 AM
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I'm shocked....SHOCKED....that the lefties at Consumers Union would trash this bill.
You outta hear what those rabid communists at AARP are saying, Mike.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:31 AM
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Consumer Reports is fake news - in the Trumpian alternate universe.
That has a name now, per Zbigniew Brzezinski: Wonder-wonder-wonder-land.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:44 AM
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No one wants their name on this American Health Care Act, not even Trump the ultimate headline grabber.

Ryan though claims this to be a "once in a lifetime opportunity".
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Old 03-17-2017, 01:08 PM
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Ryan sounds like he's been reading 'The Art of the Deal." But, the link below, to John Oliver's update look at Ryan's plan, actually contains video of Kellyanne stating, specifically, that Trump has no wish to have his name on Ryan's bill. I guess something had to be THE FIRST THING IN THE WORLD that Trump didn't want his name on....

It also tells about a section of the bill I've heard of nowhere else. The page count of this bill is like super-slimmed down, compared to Obamacare. Spicer in fact highlighted this to the press, it was one of the best highlights he could find, apparently. But six of the few pages left are devoted to language outlining how states can discontinue benefits to someone who wins big money in the lottery.

Think about that--millions of people are sure to find insurance unaffordable even if they sell their I-Phones, but what are these guys worried about? Plugging the Lottery Loophole! Wow, that was close. Might have had dozens of former poor people pulling a fast one there.

I have just two questions--who the hell thinks like that, and are there drugs that would help?

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