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03-04-2017, 05:09 PM
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So?
I don't share the cold war mentality that says I have to consider the Russians and/or Putin as some kind of threat.
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A lot of us do, certainly the majority in this country. Watch the GOP run for cover at the first real evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia. Also name a few countries where Russia's influence (read meddling) has actually helped their citizens economically.
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03-04-2017, 05:13 PM
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So we can count on them to run our country well, and everything will work out for the best?
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The Russians are going to run our country?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsfUCIchEuo
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03-04-2017, 05:18 PM
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A lot of us do, certainly the majority in this country.
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I don't care. I ain't one of them.
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Also name a few countries where Russia's influence (read meddling) has actually helped their citizens economically.
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I don't give a shit about that. And besides that, when it comes to fucking up other countries economies by meddling with them the United States is the worst offender by far.
Russia is no threat to us, unless the neoliberal warmongers provoke them into a nuclear confrontation with us.
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03-04-2017, 05:29 PM
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I don't care. I ain't one of them.
I don't give a shit about that. And besides that, when it comes to fucking up other countries economies by meddling with them the United States is the worst offender by far.
Russia is no threat to us, unless the neoliberal warmongers provoke them into a nuclear confrontation with us.
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So if there is hard evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians in tampering with our last election, what do you think we should do?
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03-04-2017, 05:36 PM
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So if there is hard evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians in tampering with our last election, what do you think we should do?
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If it can be shown that what Putin did put him over the top then I think he should be awarded a Presidential Medal of Freedom for saving us from that fascist biatch Hillary.
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03-04-2017, 05:41 PM
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If it can be shown that what Putin did put him over the top then I think he should award himself a Presidential Medal of Freedom for saving us from that fascist biatch Hillary. 
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A small edit.
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03-04-2017, 07:28 PM
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If it can be shown that what Putin did put him over the top then I think he should be awarded a Presidential Medal of Freedom for saving us from that fascist biatch Hillary. 
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Ducking the question with bluster.
Unless you utterly mean it, in which case you are yet again jumping the shark, who has gotten very dizzy watching you flying by all the time.
BTW, adding 'if it can be shown it put him over the top' changes the question, and is immaterial. Say Tony needs $100,000, so they raid Burnie's place one night. If they only get $80,000, but Tony gets the other $20,000 somewhere else, does Bernie say 'never mind?'
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03-04-2017, 07:42 PM
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Ducking the question with bluster.
Unless you utterly mean it, in which case you are yet again jumping the shark, who has gotten very dizzy watching you flying by all the time.
BTW, adding 'if it can be shown it put him over the top' changes the question, and is immaterial. Say Tony needs $100,000, so they raid Burnie's place one night. If they only get $80,000, but Tony gets the other $20,000 somewhere else, does Bernie say 'never mind?'
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Why would Bernie even care about what Tony did to Burnie?
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03-04-2017, 07:42 PM
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Ducking the question with bluster.
Unless you utterly mean it, in which case you are yet again jumping the shark, who has gotten very dizzy watching you flying by all the time.
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Yes, I really mean it. And I believe history will vindicate me.
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BTW, adding 'if it can be shown it put him over the top' changes the question, and is immaterial. Say Tony needs $100,000, so they raid Burnie's place one night. If they only get $80,000, but Tony gets the other $20,000 somewhere else, does Bernie say 'never mind?'
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I meant what I said. Putin has to have influenced enough votes to change the outcome of the election from Clinton to Trump in order to get the Presidential Medal of Freedom. We can't just give these things away like party favors.
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03-04-2017, 07:44 PM
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Why would Bernie even care about what Tony did to Burnie? 
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If that Tony in the example is Tony Soprano both Bernie and Burnie better keep their mouths shut if they know what's good for them.
And with that I'm done for the night.
I'm gonna go watch me some more of the Sopranos.
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