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Old 01-26-2017, 02:06 PM
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The liberal policy is massive wealth redistribution, mainly through progressive income taxes,a high tax on business profits, and substantial governmental spending on infrastructure and social programs. This model led to the formation of the world's largest middle class ever seen, and a vigorous support system for the poor.

On the other hand, the conservative credo of lower taxes, minimal wealth redistribution, and unfettered capitalism has recently lead to the world's greatest wealth inequity via net income, and the lowering of our nation's credit rating.

Sun Rand's rugged transformative individualism fails in actual practice across societal boundaries. Objectivism fails in every respect.
The Democratic presidents Clinton and Obama helped to send that model down the drain with their commitment to OWO (One World Order).

Now with Soros pulling the levers of the Democratic Party expect more of the same.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:22 AM
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The liberal policy is massive wealth redistribution, mainly through progressive income taxes,a high tax on business profits, and substantial governmental spending on infrastructure and social programs. This model led to the formation of the world's largest middle class ever seen, and a vigorous support system for the poor.

On the other hand, the conservative credo of lower taxes, minimal wealth redistribution, and unfettered capitalism has recently lead to the world's greatest wealth inequity via net income, and the lowering of our nation's credit rating.

Sun Rand's rugged transformative individualism fails in actual practice across societal boundaries. Objectivism fails in every respect.
We just had 8 years of Obama, arguably the most liberal President ever.

And, he lost 1000 Democratic seats across government and 60% plus think the country is going in the wrong direction.

There is no other scenario in the cosmos that would have gotten Trump elected.
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:08 AM
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Shell game in the making, when it comes to voter fraud. Just a way to even more voter suppression.

Obama was far from the Liberal President I would of wanted. To nice and accommodating to the GOP. Tried to be a GOP Light President IMO.

One major thing this election showed me was just how effective hate and fear are at bring out the vote. Something the GOP should be learning from right now! Will they? Who knows we are only a week in.



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Old 01-27-2017, 08:06 AM
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We just had 8 years of Obama, arguably the most liberal President ever.

And, he lost 1000 Democratic seats across government and 60% plus think the country is going in the wrong direction.

There is no other scenario in the cosmos that would have gotten Trump elected.
Democrats have lost sight of what is required to win via the Electoral College.

They are wallowing in urban redundancy.
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:21 AM
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We just had 8 years of Obama, arguably the most liberal President ever.

And, he lost 1000 Democratic seats across government and 60% plus think the country is going in the wrong direction.

There is no other scenario in the cosmos that would have gotten Trump elected.
He wasn't the most liberal at all. Jimmy Carter? LBJ?

He was the most something, though. Like, one of these things is not like the others?

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Old 01-27-2017, 08:59 AM
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Thanks for the photo.

Dubya looks like he is ready for action.
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Old 01-27-2017, 10:28 AM
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We just had 8 years of Obama, arguably the most liberal President ever.

And, he lost 1000 Democratic seats across government and 60% plus think the country is going in the wrong direction.

There is no other scenario in the cosmos that would have gotten Trump elected.
Try arguably the most moderate. The GOP held the house and senate for six of his eight years with the house practicing the Hastert rule. So how could Obama get all those liberal policies enacted. Is it still called the Hastert rule?

As to your second point, Obama goes out with a 61% approval rating and Trump comes into the office with 40%.

Now wonder millions of people showed to express their joy at the Trump his inauguration. 2million people was it?
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'What we talk about when we talk about Donald Trump and ‘gaslighting’'

"She hears footsteps from above, shuffling against the attic floorboards. A framed painting suddenly vanishes from a wall. The gas-fueled flames of the chandelier flicker and dim.

She is certain it happened — but her husband assures her that she’s imagining it all. It’s her behavior that seems odd, he insists; perhaps she’s going mad? And, slowly, she begins to believe him.

This is the plot of the 1944 Ingrid Bergman film “Gaslight.” It is also the origin of a buzzword that has spread from pop culture to clinical psychology and back again — but has never been more visible than it is now, in commentary about the conduct of President Trump:
CNN: Donald Trump is ‘gaslighting’ all of us
Teen Vogue: Donald Trump Is Gaslighting America
NBC: Some Experts Say Trump Team’s Falsehoods Are Classic ‘Gaslighting’

This is a very specific accusation. To “gaslight” someone isn’t just to lie to them or to manipulate their emotions. It is a deliberate attempt to deceive someone into questioning their own perception of reality. (“Suddenly, I’m beginning not to trust my memory at all,” says Bergman’s character, Paula, as her faith in her senses begins to fray.)

Throughout Trump’s ascent to the presidency, he was repeatedly accused of this sort of manipulation. When he wanted to shift attention away from his vocal support of the birther movement, he falsely claimed that Hillary Clinton had started the conspiracy theory. Trump told the New York Times that it was a “mistake” for him to retweet an unflattering photo of Ted Cruz’s wife — then later insisted in a TV interview, “I didn’t actually say it that way.” He vehemently denied that he had mocked a disabled reporter, despite a widely circulated video that showed him doing exactly that. After winning the election by a narrow margin, losing the popular vote by nearly 3 million, Trump hailed his victory as a “landslide.” Most recently, Trump and his administration have insisted that the crowd at his inauguration was the largest in American history — even as aerial photographs, crowd estimates, Metro ridership numbers and witnesses on the scene show otherwise." WP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
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We just had 8 years of Obama, arguably the most liberal President ever.


Obama wasn't even the most liberal Republican President. Not by a long shot.
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Far from that, but selectively Progressive. Nonetheless replaced by the most fabulist president ever.
Look it up.
I'll save you the trouble. "Fabulist", someone who makes stuff up, a liar.
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