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01-24-2017, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Trump is now fighting a three front war and this is effective propaganda.
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People love to believe in a hidden Trump, who manipulates the outer image as part of a master plan. But Trump doesn't do effective, or make actual plans. No insider has ever come back with accounts of the 'hidden Trump.' The accounts all say there is no hidden Trump.
So, it's not part of some deep propaganda campaign to go on about immigrant vote fraud. It's just a belief of his. He doesn't let go of self-serving beliefs.
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01-24-2017, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
But Trump doesn't do effective, or make actual plans.
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Right.
That's why his campaign fizzled out and went nowhere.
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01-24-2017, 05:12 PM
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Getting his ducks in a row for new voter suppression and immigration laws. GOP will fall in line, the majority of them have sold their souls and last vestiges of integrity for power!
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01-24-2017, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Don, you may be another one of the rare few on this forum that hasn't gone batshit crazy over Trump's election.
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There needed to be some correction to all these one sided trade deals.
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01-24-2017, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
If you publicly disagree with this obvious BS, you go on the enemies list.
People will be taught not to disagree. He can do more than tweet at you now.
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This is a little scary, having a president who's unsubstantiated beliefs are "facts" to be acted upon. So what new restrictive voter laws will he push for? The GOP has already set a precedent with all the new voter ID laws passed under the excuse of fictional voter fraud...and no one cared. So laws will be passed by Trumps and the GOP based on belief rather than fact and the people apparently will not care. No telling where this will end.
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01-24-2017, 05:33 PM
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Jigsawed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
People love to believe in a hidden Trump, who manipulates the outer image as part of a master plan. But Trump doesn't do effective, or make actual plans. No insider has ever come back with accounts of the 'hidden Trump.' The accounts all say there is no hidden Trump.
So, it's not part of some deep propaganda campaign to go on about immigrant vote fraud. It's just a belief of his. He doesn't let go of self-serving beliefs.
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Probably there was some smoke with all that official rush to give real documentation to illegals. Damn just check out how many illegals who got citizenship that cause such an uproar that the program had to be slowed and strongly reviewed.
When real citizens see illegals with drivers licences...suspicion follows.
And BTW Trump had an effective plan for the Blue Wall States.
And do you believe he had a plan for Jeb Bush?
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01-24-2017, 05:42 PM
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No plan needed for Jeb Bush. his name was Bush, and the 'smarter brother' came off as dumb.
All in all, I think Trump got lucky every step of the way. It was the year when what he (and smarter people on his behalf) were able to do, worked. Just barely worked, don't forget. He never expected to win.
Plan for the blue wall? A pattern seen in retrospect. He campaigned in California, so he therefore had a plan for California, right? How'd that work out?
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01-24-2017, 05:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
Probably there was some smoke with all that official rush to give real documentation to illegals. Damn just check out how many illegals who got citizenship that cause such an uproar that the program had to be slowed and strongly reviewed.
When real citizens see illegals with drivers licences...suspicion follows.
And BTW Trump had an effective plan for the Blue Wall States.
And do you believe he had a plan for Jeb Bush?
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Only on Fox News was the propaganda put forth that those California drivers licenses entitled the undocumented to vote.
Nothing could be further from the truth, Don. I've volunteered to work the polls for years and it is impossible for the undocumented to vote. Anyone who tried would be on the next bus to the border.
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01-24-2017, 05:49 PM
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Jigsawed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
No plan needed for Jeb Bush. his name was Bush, and the 'smarter brother' came off as dumb.
All in all, I think Trump got lucky every step of the way. It was the year when what he (and smarter people on his behalf) were able to do, worked. Just barely worked, don't forget. He never expected to win.
Plan for the blue wall? A pattern seen in retrospect. He campaigned in California, so he therefore had a plan for California, right? How'd that work out?
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Luck every step of the way...some luck running against his party and the Democrats.
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01-24-2017, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Luck every step of the way...some luck running against his party and the Democrats.
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Yep.... And of course, a little help from Russia 😉
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