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Old 01-22-2017, 12:27 PM
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The Germans not being consulted on Nuremberg was might makes right.
How the hell were we supposed to consult with a country that didn't yet even have a government (the Federal Republic of Germany didn't come into being until 1949 with Konrad Adenauer as the first post-war Bundeskanzler)?
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:37 PM
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The Germans not being consulted on Nuremberg was might makes right.
Nice bit of sophistry with a dash of false equivalency. It's still a shit argument.
Just ask any US soldier from Malmedy or any of the deathcamp survivors what they think of your words.
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Old 01-22-2017, 01:02 PM
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How the hell were we supposed to consult with a country that didn't yet even have a government (the Federal Republic of Germany didn't come into being until 1949 with Konrad Adenauer as the first post-war Bundeskanzler)?
I wrote Germans, not Germany.
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Old 01-22-2017, 01:05 PM
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Nice bit of sophistry with a dash of false equivalency. It's still a shit argument.
Just ask any US soldier from Malmedy or any of the deathcamp survivors what they think of your words.
The Nuremberg trails are indeed an example of might makes right, which doesn't preclude the trials as being right.
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I wrote Germans, not Germany.
OK, what were we supposed to do? Pick up some refugee off the roadside or some war widow and ask her what she thought about concentration camps that she never knew existed? Jeez.
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Old 01-22-2017, 01:08 PM
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OK, what were we supposed to do? Pick up some refugee off the roadside or some war widow and ask her what she thought about concentration camps that she never knew existed? Jeez.
Context is everything.
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The Nuremberg trails are indeed an example of might makes right, which doesn't preclude the trials as being right.
Whatever floats your boat Mr. Non-sequitur.
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Geez you are really naive when it comes to the US versus the rest of the world.
So is your president.
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Old 01-22-2017, 02:12 PM
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So is your president.
He's our president.
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How the hell were we supposed to consult with a country that didn't yet even have a government (the Federal Republic of Germany didn't come into being until 1949 with Konrad Adenauer as the first post-war Bundeskanzler)?
Excellent question.

"Might Makes Right" is just a self affirmation for the victor.

The victor in any conflict will see himself as "right", regardless of the legitimacy of his claim. Just as so many believe personal wealth is an affirmation of their righteousness. No, scumbags can and do get rich all of the time. Tyrants and bullies do occasionally win and their victories invariably embolden them to commit even greater abuses.
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