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01-16-2017, 07:01 AM
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This is hilarious. A couple of years ago the left was bleating about the evils of the 1% and how they were screwing up the world and stacking the deck against the 99%. Now that it turns out that the left comprises a hefty portion of the 1%, the leftists in this forum extoll the virtues of the 1% by suggesting that the 1% are charitable.
So which is it: is it a good idea that the 1% have most of the loot because they're virtuous and they donate their loot to charity? Or is it a bad idea that all that wealth is concentrated within 1% of the population, and the folks who have it are still a threat to the 99% who they're stealing the loot from regardless of their political leanings?
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01-16-2017, 07:05 AM
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This is hilarious. A couple of years ago the left was bleating about the evils of the 1% and how they were screwing up the world and stacking the deck against the 99%. Now that it turns out that the left comprises a hefty portion of the 1%, the leftists in this forum extoll the virtues of the 1% by suggesting that the 1% are charitable.
So which is it: is it a good idea that the 1% have most of the loot because they're virtuous and they donate their loot to charity? Or is it a bad idea that all that wealth is concentrated within 1% of the population, and the folks who have it are still a threat to the 99% who they're stealing the loot from regardless of their political leanings?
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And why exactly are you criticizing the 1%? Your party doesn't approve of "class warfare," remember? It seems you only dislike rich people with a social conscience, but worship the greedy SOB's. Figures.
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01-16-2017, 07:28 AM
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The claimed ideological tilt of some set of rich people is immaterial. The high concentration of wealth created by the system that allows an undefined and limitless portion of the surplus to be claimed by owners is always, inherently, and inescapably unjust and harmful.
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01-16-2017, 07:32 AM
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That wooshing sound you're hearing is the wind whistling through those empty spaces between your ears, Mike. You should really do a modicum of work before displaying your petulant ignorance for all to see.
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Thank you for posting drivel that has nothing to do with the point of the OP.
The left has been railing against the rich forever, who we've been told have been stacking the deck against the rest of us and are just the "evil rich". Of the Occupy Wall Street whiners, Obama stated that he was on their side. The evils of the rich were pointed out with gusto right here in this forum during the OWS protests. If I remember correctly, Don's kids joined the protee
Here comes an article that points out that the left is a healthy chunk of the 1%, and you guys rush to their defense by pointing out their charitable giving?
Hypocrisy alert!
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01-16-2017, 07:36 AM
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And why exactly are you criticizing the 1%? Your party doesn't approve of "class warfare," remember? It seems you only dislike rich people with a social conscience, but worship the greedy SOB's. Figures.
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Point out to me where I criticized the 1%? In fact, I've often been chided in this forum for "defending them". No, that's your job Finn, and i wouldn't dream of taking that job from you.
As for your other childish attempt at making a debate point, you'd have to demonstrate that all rich folks on the left are not "greedy SOB's". Good luck with that.
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01-16-2017, 07:41 AM
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""A rising tide lifts all boats"" So a great economy will be ergo good for the 1%.
The increases coming from the economy not tax cuts!
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01-16-2017, 08:01 AM
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My, my, still ranting on the coal people.
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You're talking about the very people I grew up around. Ohio = Coal and steel. Democrats who have become Trump-drones, because they think he's going to give them their ____ back. The irony is that now, they now support Republicans.......You know, the party that has been telling them to just move on, find another way, lift yourself up for the last 40-50 years? Do you know anyone who has done little more with his life other than bellyache and toss around blame over some job he lost 30 years ago? I do.
Tell me you see no irony there?
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01-16-2017, 08:12 AM
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Point out to me where I criticized the 1%? In fact, I've often been chided in this forum for "defending them". No, that's your job Finn, and i wouldn't dream of taking that job from you.
As for your other childish attempt at making a debate point, you'd have to demonstrate that all rich folks on the left are not "greedy SOB's". Good luck with that.
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It is somewhat refreshing to see that people on both sides are coming to realize that selfish greed run amuck is not good. I recall hearing Rightists applaud wealthy businessmen who stick it to American workers saying; "I don't blame them. They can make a lot more money manufacturing elsewhere. That's just smart business."...... How'd that work out for our country, Mike?
So, tell me, Mike; are "all rich folks" on the right "greedy SOB's"?
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01-16-2017, 08:29 AM
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It is somewhat refreshing to see that people on both sides are coming to realize that selfish greed run amuck is not good. I recall hearing Rightists applaud wealthy businessmen who stick it to American workers saying; "I don't blame them. They can make a lot more money manufacturing elsewhere. That's just smart business."...... How'd that work out for our country, Mike?
So, tell me, Mike; are "all rich folks" on the right "greedy SOB's"?
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As to your first question, the "we can make a lot more money manufacturing elsewhere" mindset - as practiced by Apple for example - helped bring us the Trump presidency.
As to the 2nd question - I have no idea. You'd have to ask Finn or someone in the OWS crowd . They seem to have keen insights into the personality ticks of the uber rich.
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01-16-2017, 10:37 AM
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As to your first question, the "we can make a lot more money manufacturing elsewhere" mindset - as practiced by Apple for example - helped bring us the Trump presidency.
As to the 2nd question - I have no idea. You'd have to ask Finn or someone in the OWS crowd . They seem to have keen insights into the personality ticks of the uber rich. 
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Apple, GE, Ford, GM, Boeing, USS, etc., etc., etc.......damn near everyone AFAIK. It became quite popular for a few decades to outsource, raid and downsize, then flaunt the personal wealth it brought. Especially in the 1980s and '90s as I recall. "Greed is Good!".... Remember those days, when some of us celebrated corporate greed?
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