President Obama Orders Sanctions

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by CarlV

Most Russians are white after all and Chinese aren't. Slava!



Carl

You are still missing the essence.

Our factories have not been sent to Russia.

The sheeple hardly encounter made in Russia.

The sheeple do not connect Russia with the Rust Belt.

[CarlV]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

You are still missing the essence.

Our factories have not been sent to Russia.

The sheeple hardly encounter made in Russia.

The sheeple do not connect Russia with the Rust Belt.

Ah, blame the Chinese for our long term business failures in order to make the rich richer in the short term. We always seem to think we have the most nukes so the world will do as we want and won't do as what the Japanese started in the 1970's with government subsidies and market flooding.

That is as rich as thinking the people will buy "nation building" as an excuse for thinking Viet Nam can't happen in the middle east. Guess what? Russia has been next door to Afghanistan for centuries and could not do what Bush was sure he could.

Too bad we don't spend our money on our own instead of multi national corporations that call the US home but make their money elsewhere just as Bayer and Nestle are quietly buying up American corporations.

Trickle down works as a short term stimulus but fails as a standard business model. We don't learn this so we repeat failed policies. Even Bill Clinton won't say he was a dumbass for signing NAFTA.

Carl

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I don't doubt that intelligence supported Obama's action, but I have to think that he loves the irony of having a factual basis (as opposed to Trump's manufactured Birther crap) to place into doubt the legitimacy of Trump's presidency.

So, how does any of this "place into doubt the legitimacy of Trump's presidency....at least, with anyone other than the whacko left?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

So, how does any of this "place into doubt the legitimacy of Trump's presidency....at least, with anyone other than the whacko left?

Pondering the impact of Russia's deliberate fucking with our election is certainly more legitimate than Trump himself pounding his ridiculous birther drum for years on end.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

So, how does any of this "place into doubt the legitimacy of Trump's presidency....at least, with anyone other than the whacko left?

You're not concerned that the country Saint Ronnie identified as the "Evil Empire" interjected itself into our election in favor of its preferred candidate? Your effort to delegitimize this conclusion assigning it to the "whacko left" is par for the course for you. One must remember that you now march with Trump and will mimic him with you methods.

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

You're not concerned that the country Saint Ronnie identified as the "Evil Empire" interjected itself into our election in favor of its preferred candidate? Your effort to delegitimize this conclusion assigning it to the "whacko left" is par for the course for you. One must remember that you now march with Trump and will mimic him with you methods.

Doesn't answer the question...though your petty attempts at insult is par for the course when you want to avoid the question. you don't The question was how any of this...as you suggested...places into doubt the legitimacy of Trump's presidency?

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Pondering the impact of Russia's deliberate fucking with our election is certainly more legitimate than Trump himself pounding his ridiculous birther drum for years on end.

Doesn't answer the question.

[bobabode]

'Trump was silent on new U.S. sanctions against Russia, but he praises Putin's response' LA Times

"Great move on delay (by V. Putin) - I always knew he was very smart!" Donald Trump's tweet of the day.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politi...htmlstory.html

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

Doesn't answer the question...though your petty attempts at insult is par for the course when you want to avoid the question. you don't The question was how any of this...as you suggested...places into doubt the legitimacy of Trump's presidency?

It is not an insult to identify your methods of trying to diminish a damaging fact by attributing it to a fringe group. I do not believe that the FBI and DHS are fringe groups. The selective release of emails to embarass one campaign worked to Trumps advantage. It provided Sanders supporters an excuse to stay home. Considering the narrow margins in several states, the intervention by the Evil Empire certainly raises questions about a candidate that will gladly accept such intervention and praise the KGB agent who planned it.

I will now await a barrage of whataboutery.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by whell

Doesn't answer the question.

Legitimacy is given or withheld in the minds of the people. Every individual gets to answer your question for themselves. You can call people 'wacko' all week, troll, but you'll never put Trump over for four years.

You have hitched your wagon to a Trump. Enjoy the ride!