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12-11-2016, 04:39 PM
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Until he demands a wrong military strike on another country based on the omission of a tiny key piece of information he missed in a meeting.
Trump is playing a dangerous game with the very well being of this country. He's not taking the job seriously.
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My old buddy Potter has gone full Hillarybot.
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12-11-2016, 04:55 PM
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If Trump already had a broad and deep understanding of foreign affairs and security policy, I could understand curtailing his briefings somewhat. But he's fundamentally clueless in this regard, not knowing what the nuclear triad or Iranian's Quds Force was. Moreover, he's going to be advised by Michael Flynn, a once respected general who has turned into a nutjob and conspiracy theorist, and Steve Bannon, a white nationalist with ties to all the right wing crazies in Europe (most of whom are supported by Putin). Intellectual laziness is not an attribute, particularly when you surround yourself with nutjobs as your closest advisors.
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12-11-2016, 04:57 PM
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“Democrats and Republicans must work together, and across the jurisdictional lines of the Congress, to examine these recent incidents thoroughly and devise comprehensive solutions to deter and defend against further cyberattacks,” read the statement from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), an Armed Services Committee member; Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), the incoming minority leader for his caucus; and Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), the ranking member on the Armed Services Committee.
This may be the seed that removes Trump from office someday. It wouldn't take much to remove a President who appears to put himself and Russia before the United States.
Above quoted from:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b04c8e2bb04591
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12-11-2016, 05:07 PM
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“Democrats and Republicans must work together, and across the jurisdictional lines of the Congress, to examine these recent incidents thoroughly and devise comprehensive solutions to deter and defend against further cyberattacks,” read the statement from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), an Armed Services Committee member; Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), the incoming minority leader for his caucus; and Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), the ranking member on the Armed Services Committee.
This may be the seed that removes Trump from office someday. It wouldn't take much to remove a President who appears to put himself and Russia before the United States.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b04c8e2bb04591
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It's bipartisan because Lindsey Graham and John McCain both hate Trump and have personal axes to grind.
As for the "Russians hacked our election", I put that one right up there with "The Dog ate my homework"
In fact, maybe that will become the new school kid excuse. "The Russians Hacked My Homework!"
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12-11-2016, 05:27 PM
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It's bipartisan because Lindsey Graham and John McCain both hate Trump and have personal axes to grind.
As for the "Russians hacked our election", I put that one right up there with "The Dog ate my homework"
In fact, maybe that will become the new school kid excuse. "The Russians Hacked My Homework!"
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If it's so cut and dried that the Russians had nothing to do with it, you'd think that Trump would be the first to want a thorough investigation to quell this thing. However, he knows full well that Russia is highly likely to have been involved and that it would cast a shadow over his Presidency, both for the hacking and all the positive things and relationships he (and Manafort, Flynn and Tillerson) has said or had with Putin.
Trump doth protest too much. This thing stinks to high heaven.
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12-11-2016, 05:41 PM
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Then why does he call their assessment "ridiculous" and "laughable (particularly in light of the myriad Russian intrusions in Europe)?" Morever, why doesn't he stand up in support of an investigation to clear the air rather than slinging mud?
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On today's Fox News Sunday show, he said he was fine with the investigation. What he says is "ridiculous" is the notion that if there was Russian hacking, the hacking had the objective providing him with some advantage.
On that point, I think he's right.
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12-11-2016, 05:42 PM
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Trump doth protest too much. This thing stinks to high heaven.
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I think, rather, that its Finn that doth protest too much.
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12-11-2016, 05:55 PM
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On today's Fox News Sunday show, he said he was fine with the investigation. What he says is "ridiculous" is the notion that if there was Russian hacking, the hacking had the objective providing him with some advantage.
On that point, I think he's right.
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Based upon what evidence? If it's indeed ridiculous, he should be out front supporting the investigation to support his opinion that doesn't comport with the consensus of the intelligence community about such a serious matter.
Regardless of whether the hacking was intended to simply disrupt the election or discredit our country (and not help Trump directly), both are grievous actions by the Russians and Trump (and his surrogates) shouldn't be so cavalier about dismissing it ("I don't believe it at all.") He should forcefully demand an investigation, not tweet insults about the CIA.
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12-11-2016, 05:58 PM
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My old buddy Potter has gone full Hillarybot. 
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You have no buddies, because you've turned on every one.
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12-11-2016, 06:43 PM
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My old buddy Potter has gone full Hillarybot. 
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Really? That's all ya got?
Fuck Hillary, she's not president elect. You should be worried.
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