Global Warming Ends....

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Right, because climate "consensus" masquerading as science, complete with its contrived modeling and altered data, must be believed no matter what.

I'm not a hard core global warming guy. OTOH, I don't trust a pseudo-scientific think tank founded by a social anthropologist with an agenda. One dubious data point/assertion does not a trend make, no matter how much you want to believe it.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I'm not a hard core global warming guy. OTOH, I don't trust a pseudo-scientific think tank founded by a social anthropologist with an agenda. One dubious data point/assertion does not a trend make, no matter how much you want to believe it.

I have been driving up and down from Portland since '96 and South Lake Tahoe since '97. One only needs to look at Mt. Shasta, Lake Shasta, the Western Sierra mountains and Lake Tahoe to see the long term effects of global warming.

This past year Lake Shasta filled up and was still full when I drove through a month back, but they did get over 8" of rain from one storm. As to Lake Tahoe, snow melts rapidly and this is water run off and does not end up in the lake. Lake Tahoe is still several feet short of normal.

[Wasillaguy]

There were once giant Sequoias growing above the arctic circle.
Think of the current global warming as a big restoral project, bringing the earth back the way it was before man was even here. It's like cleaning the pots and replacing all the electrolytics in your amp, brings it right back to new condition.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

One dubious data point/assertion does not a trend make, no matter how much you want to believe it.

Nor do a bunch of manufactured, dubious data points.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Nor do a bunch of manufactured, dubious data points.

Of course not. Yet real data does.

[HarmanKardon]

Global Warming deniers are as ridiculous as Holocaust deniers are dangerous. It makes me depressive to see repeatedly how much crap is posted here in this forum by intelligent people.

What makes the Black Forest being the world famous Black Forest? Conifers (mostly spruce and fir trees) almost everywhere. In the next decades the conifers will disappear because of the Global Warming. I have a big spruce and a big fir tree in my garden, and since 2013 I have to water them in July and August, and a lot of municipal conifers died in the last years. Spruce and fir trees are shallow-rooted trees, as solitary trees they can't survive without being watered since the consequences of Global Warming have become so serious.

By the way, how is your lawn in always sunny California, folks? Did you replace it by dead pebbles with some little miserably looking desert plants in between? This becomes more and more common here. A tragedy.

[whell]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

Global Warming deniers are as ridiculous as Holocaust deniers are dangerous. It makes me depressive to see how much crap is posted here in this forum by intelligent people. .

I actually feel sorry for the folks who buy into this tripe. How many "intelligent people" bought into the hysteria that surrounded Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth"? The folks promoting the film proclaimed the world would end in 10 years if we didn't act "now". Well, that "now" was in 2006, and 10 years later (which would have been summer 2016) the planet is still habitable. I wonder how many of those "intelligent people" are bothered by the fact that we're all still here?

Al Gore wasn't the first with hysterical predictions of doom. There we many "intelligent people" who marked the occasion of Earth Day in 1970 to offer apocalyptic warnings of the Earth's hastening demise. Remember Barry Commoner? Paul Ehrlich? These guys gained much notoriety and sold lots of books predicting the near term end of civilization on Earth. That hundreds of thousands would die in the early '70's from smog poisoning in Los Angeles alone. That all the freshwater fish would see the oxygen sucked out of the water by "organic pollutants" and the poor fish would all be dead.

Of course, back then, global cooling was a big concern. We were supposed to be in a new Ice Age by now. Apparently, El Nino didn't get that memo.

[HarmanKardon]

You are denying the FACTS like a Nazi denies the Holocaust, it does not make sense to discuss the topic with you, Sir.

[donquixote99]

It does not make sense to discuss anything with Whell. He knows why he is here, and it is to fight and denounce. He will never do anything else, no matter what.

[catswiththum]

I don't worry about it. The most respected scientists on both sides of the global warming argument agree we are past the point of no return. We could all go solar and nuclear tomorrow and it would make no difference.

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