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11-22-2016, 01:15 PM
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I was hinting at Der Fuehrer in waiting's self interest.
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Of course, I see the self interest especially since I do frequent casino's in Tahoe for eating out.
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11-22-2016, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by barbara
Obama lowered the cap at which salaried employees can begin to earn overtime. Trump's proposal would raise that cap.
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Where is this proposal of Trump's?
All I can find is this:
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtoo...time-rule.aspx
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But he may be receptive to calling for a small-business exemption and doing away with the triennial automatic increases after he takes office Jan. 20.
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Sorry, but just because some screaming squirrel Hillarybot suggests that Trump "may be receptive to calling for" something is not a "proposal" by Trump.
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11-22-2016, 02:44 PM
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Isn't it comforting to have Paul Ryan as 3rd in line knowing it is his mission to end SS and Medicare even the vouchers if nothing else, the easiest way to defund any program.
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No, I hate Paul Ryan.
I'm pretty sure Trump does too, being as Ryan tried to stab him in the back.
I may be wrong, but I don't think Paul Ryan is going to be getting his way with Trump. We'll have to see.
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11-22-2016, 03:13 PM
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The obvious difference is that this is a dog that caught a car,
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A dog that caught a car?
Trump ran what will go down as one of the most brilliant political campaigns in all of human history.
He was playing to win, and he prevailed against what seemed to be insurmountable odds.
What he did was make fools out of all the know it all elitist snobs that opposed him. That's why they are so assed up now. Because deep down inside, in places they don't talk about at parties they know they have been shown up for the out of touch fools that they are.
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11-22-2016, 03:17 PM
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A dog that caught a car?
Trump ran what will go down as one of the most brilliant political campaigns in all of human history...
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Along with a similar campaign across the pond that culminated in the March, 1933 election.
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11-22-2016, 03:25 PM
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Along with a similar campaign across the pond that culminated in the March, 1933 election.
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And here comes the "Reductio ad Hitlerum" argument.
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11-22-2016, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
No, I hate Paul Ryan.
I'm pretty sure Trump does too, being as Ryan tried to stab him in the back.
I may be wrong, but I don't think Paul Ryan is going to be getting his way with Trump. We'll have to see.
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Hating Paul Ryan doesn't change line of sucession.
https://www.google.com/search?q=3rd+...utf-8&oe=utf-8
Or that he wants to pull the rug out from under the poor and disabled rather than make the rich pay their fair share by ending their free ride on the rest of us.
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In an interview with Fox News Channel last Thursday, Ryan said: “Obamacare rewrote Medicare … so if you’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare, you have to address those issues as well. … What people don’t realize is that Medicare is going broke, that Medicare is going to have price controls. … So you have to deal with those issues if you’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare. Medicare has got some serious problems because of Obamacare. Those things are part of our plan to replace Obamacare.”
There’s no secret about what specifically Ryan has in mind. He intends to replace traditional Medicare, an efficient program offering guaranteed treatment and featuring rock-bottom administrative costs, with a privatized program. Seniors would get a federal voucher to help them pay premiums charged by commercial insurance plans. Ryan calls this system “premium support.”
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Ryan has surrounded his Medicare proposal with a bodyguard of lies. In his Fox News appearance, he said Medicare is “going broke” and ascribed its problems to the Affordable Care Act. Neither is true.
Medicare faces fiscal problems, but it’s not going broke, and according to both the Medicare trustees and the Congressional Budget Office, the Affordable Care Act has in fact alleviated those problems rather than caused them. The trustees reported in 2010 that passage of Obamacare had postponed the projected exhaustion date of the Medicare trust fund by 12 years — to 2029 from 2017. Projections of Medicare spending growth have consistently come down, year after year, at least in part due to changes in the program imposed through Obamacare.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...114-story.html
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11-22-2016, 03:49 PM
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Dude, you do realize that if Hillary had won, Ryan would still be third in line didn't you?
Speaker of the House is always third in line and the only way it wouldn't have been Ryan would be if the Democrats had also taken the house, and that was never in serious play even when the polls and pundits were predicting a big win for Hillary.
A Clinton win would have empowered Ryan. He wanted Trump to lose big so he could take up the mantle of leader of the Party and run for President in 2020.
Trumps win hurt him. He may well be out of that speaker job before too long.
http://www.rollcall.com/news/home/ry...m-job-security
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11-22-2016, 06:03 PM
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Greatest political campaign since who?
Italian author Luigi Barzini on Benito Mussolini.
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11-23-2016, 09:51 AM
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Trump picks Nikki Haley as UN ambassador. Nice! Not that wacko Bolton.
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