Hillary Clinton Now Leads by 1 Million in History-Making Popular Vote Total

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I totally disgusted with this whole process. This entire election season has been one insult after another to my sense of fair play.

The entire thing has been rotten and rigged.

First the Democrats rigged the primary process for Hillary. Right off the bat they assign her a 400 point lead in undemocratic superdelegates, setting the narrative in the minds of the voters that she has an insurmountable lead that can't be overcome. Then the media colludes with them by reporting that "insurmountable" lead before every primary.

Then, after she "wins" the nomination, the media pivots and goes on a non stop rampage to destroy Donald Trump.

Finally I guess karma catches up and she's tripped up by the grossly unfair electoral college. Make no mistake, I'm happy she's not going to be President, but I abhor the way it came about.

Hey Tom,
Where did you get the info on the 400 point lead? I googled and didn't find anything conclusive. I would like to know more about this.

[Denier]

I'm glad Trump won and I'm glad it hurts the sociopathic criminal left.

[68custom]

getting rid of the college of electors will be a huge undertaking starting with every state before going to congress and yes it should be done. I think campaign finacing laws should be changed as well there is too much money in the process now. 501c's and superpacs have way too much influence on outcomes.

[whell]

Originally Posted by 68custom

getting rid of the college of electors will be a huge undertaking starting with every state before going to congress and yes it should be done. I think campaign finacing laws should be changed as well there is too much money in the process now. 501c's and superpacs have way too much influence on outcomes.

Uh huh. If the situation were reversed and a Dem lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote, the EC would be talked about as the greatest idea ever.

The US is not a democracy. It is a representative republic. The EC was devised to be consistent with idea of a representative republic. The left doesn't get to kick that to the curb just because they lost one election.

I agree with you on the campaign financing laws. Get rid of tax favored status for PAC's and the favored tax treatment of political contributions. That would certainly be a good start.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by whell

Uh huh. If the situation were reversed and a Dem lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote, the EC would be talked about as the greatest idea ever.

The US is not a democracy. It is a representative republic. The EC was devised to be consistent with idea of a representative republic. The left doesn't get to kick that to the curb just because they lost one election.

I agree with you on the campaign financing laws. Get rid of tax favored status for PAC's and the favored tax treatment of political contributions. That would certainly be a good start.

Regardless of who's in power and who won, the Electoral College needs to go and the Senate needs to be proportion by population, the least populated states getting one ...

Regarding our being a republic of sovereign states, that was then and this is now. The Civil War set a precedent regarding holy state sovereignty.

[Rajoo]

Is it the EC or the two party system that is stifling democracy?

[ZeroJunk]

It would be hard to reconcile how a candidate could lose 95% of the counties in the country but win the popular vote and be president.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Is it the EC or the two party system that is stifling democracy?

Both. TJ showed the main problem with the EC with his CA/WY example and the parties are corporately run (American Fascism).

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Uh huh. If the situation were reversed and a Dem lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote, the EC would be talked about as the greatest idea ever.

The US is not a democracy. It is a representative republic. The EC was devised to be consistent with idea of a representative republic. The left doesn't get to kick that to the curb just because they lost one election.

I agree with you on the campaign financing laws. Get rid of tax favored status for PAC's and the favored tax treatment of political contributions. That would certainly be a good start.

See, that's the difference between you and most everyone else. We think in terms of what constitutes the greatest good for the greatest number of people. Your Randian obsession with the individual and of selfishness as a cardinal virtue is a deranged perversion of enlightened self interest. See a shrink.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

It would be hard to reconcile how a candidate could lose 95% of the counties in the country but win the popular vote and be president.

Land doesn't vote, citizens vote.