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[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Yeah, the handful of Air Farce people that are in combat kill from 15,000 feet, then fly back to the base that night and eat a steak dinner at the "O" club. Some fucking warriors they are.

I'll bet dollars to donuts you were a ground pounder anyway.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I'll bet dollars to donuts you were a ground pounder anyway.

Don't be too hard on ol' Joad. I'll bet he was the very best of the best at latrine duty.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Don't be too hard on ol' Joad. I'll bet he was the very best of the best at latrine duty.

He could peel potatoes with the best of 'em, I'm sure.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I managed and/or consulted on construction projects on Army and Air Force bases all over the world for twenty years. I've been to Air Force bases you've likely never heard of and have certainly never been to (Shemya, AK, for example). It's certainly true that Air Force bases are nicer and have better facilities than Army bases for the most part, but many are in Gawd-awful places (e.g., Shemya and Clear, AK; Minot and Grand Forks, ND). FWIW, my son currently works at Offutt AFB south of Omaha. FWIW, I've been to pretty much every Army and Air Force base in the US and dozens overseas.

Arkansas and North Dakota?

I'll bet they see a lot of combat there.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

He could peel potatoes with the best of 'em, I'm sure.

I was a Medic.

I emptied bedpans.

Originally Posted by finnbow

I'll bet dollars to donuts you were a ground pounder anyway.

The only thing I pounded in Vietnam was my Pud.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Arkansas and North Dakota?

I'll bet they see a lot of combat there.

Alaska, dimwit.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I was a Medic.

I emptied bedpans.

The only thing I pounded in Vietnam was my Pud.

And that somehow makes you an authority on the Air Force? I personally managed the construction of 5 Air Force nuclear missile sites in Germany. I'd say I've had far more interactions/experience with the Army and Air Force than you could even begin to imagine.

FWIW, my father was a medic in New Guinea in WWII, after which he got a law degree on the GI Bill and served a career as a JAG officer in the Army with assignments in Japan, Germany, Texas and DC.

[bobabode]

New Guinea must've been hell for your dad, Pat.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

New Guinea must've been hell for your dad, Pat.

He never talked at all about any of the gruesome stuff. He did talk, however, about how after we won, Japanese survivors would sneak out of the jungle at night and steal food from the mess hall kitchens. I still have some pictures of him in uniform with a couple of buddies and their Betty Grable posters in the background as well as some V-Mail letters to my mom who he started dating before the War and married immediately afterwards.

Funny story - My dad was working days at Georgetown Prep while taking some night classes at Georgetown U when Pearl Harbor was attacked. He was 30 at the time and was called in for a draft induction physical in Rockville and the doctor, noticing his age and thick glasses, told him that he wouldn't be drafted until "Hitler came goose-stepping down Rockville Pike." He was drafted 3-4 months later, trained up, and sent off to New Guinea for the duration of the war.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

He never talked at all about any of the gruesome stuff. He did talk, however, about how after we won, Japanese survivors would sneak out of the jungle at night and steal food from the mess hall kitchens. I still have some pictures of him in uniform with a couple of buddies and their Betty Grable posters in the background as well as some V-Mail letters to my mom who he started dating before the War and married immediately afterwards.

Funny story - My dad was working days at Georgetown Prep while taking some night classes at Georgetown U when Pearl Harbor was attacked. He was 30 at the time and was called in for a draft induction physical in Rockville and the doctor, noticing his age and thick glasses, told him that he wouldn't be drafted until "Hitler came goose-stepping down Rockville Pike." He was drafted 3-4 months later, trained up, and sent off to New Guinea for the duration of the war.

Pops went down the Navy recruiting office here in Los Angeles only to discover he was color blind. He ended up in the 10th Armored Division, 3rd Army, Metz-Ardennes-Rhineland. He ended the war in Garmisch-Partenkirchen skiing the Zugspitzplatt.