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Old 10-22-2016, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JCricket View Post
Maybe I am incorrectly drawing a correlation between minimum wage and the cost of living.
Here is the thing:

You come out and start a thread about a very controversial subject the minimum wage.
Then you make the same standard arguments conservatives have made since Moses was born. Then you sort of couch your language in a warm and sort of philosophical armchair by the fireside manner and diffidently hedge your points by saying you are really concerned about the poor (you seem sincere) and that the real issue are people on fixed incomes i.e. SS and pensions ( as if the latter is still an option for most workers).
The minimum wage is not about retirees or your relatives on fixed incomes. It is about workers in our society being given dignity of the hard work they do. It is about fairness.

I told you what I felt and what probably many who hear arguments like this immediately think in their minds.

My wife would never, ever have gotten to 12 bucks an hour if Jerry Brown had not raised the minimum wage. The people who she works for are like most employers in our service economy: they only care about the bottom line.

So your nice and polite post is indeed warm but the message between the lines still is a very bad one ok. The outcome for your philosophy no matter how nice your language is still the same: Americans getting screwed. It may not be your intention but the result is the same. Nice corporations who give their workers across the board raises do not really exist. That is why we have government.

You know most progressives want the minimum wage to be increased. So do most Zo************************ts, those in the mold of Sanders and Western European Democracies anyway.
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