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10-11-2016, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Americans don't read.
They cannot think critically.
So it is not surprising they have no clue when Trump lies to them.
And his base, dispossessed working class Americans left behind by an increasingly global world, are supporting someone who does not have their interests at heart. Because he is not "politically correct."
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Robbin this is a result of corporations conning our school system into turning out 'robots' for these corporations. We should be teaching young people to think for themselves, if corporations want robots let them train them.
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10-11-2016, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
Robbin this is a result of corporations conning our school system into turning out 'robots' for these corporations. We should be teaching young people to think for themselves, if corporations want robots let them train them.
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So why are corporations not employing them? Why do corporations try so hard to employ foreigners over locals especially in the technological and scientific sectors...sectors where less "reading" is required?
The fact is our schools are heavily geared to readers, heavily biased to the Humanities.
Our schools are not the ones producing robots.
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10-11-2016, 10:53 AM
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My experience with this maybe outdated since my youngest is out of collage for years now.
But at that time the HS's were under pressure to have high test scores and numbers. So a good portion of the year was preparing for the tests. Working the numbers and teacher evaluations. Never a parent evaluation!
Six Sigma may work on paper but in the average human stifles creativity and initiative. Since it has been introduced in industry and schooling in the 80's I see a correlation in the increase in human robots, drones being produced.
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10-11-2016, 10:57 AM
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TQM began producing Japanese drones/robots in the 50s.
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10-11-2016, 11:27 AM
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TQM began producing Japanese drones/robots in the 50s.
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The same society who say deru kugi ha utareru – ‘the nail that sticks out gets hammered down’.
Two different societies two different results.
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10-11-2016, 12:39 PM
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10-11-2016, 12:49 PM
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Sort of "lone wolf". They are so dangerous when they get the power.
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10-11-2016, 12:56 PM
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Trump is actually doing us all a favor by exposing the pay for play political system, except his method and more importantly his persona are deeply flawed. GOP first gave us the TEA faction, now the Trump faction whereas the Democratic is maintaining a status quo, but for how long?
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10-11-2016, 03:00 PM
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the article said one interesting thing that I disagree with. It suggested that with Trump cut loose, it might alienate moderate and wing voters. I think Trump has moved from GOP nominee, to bad GOP nominee, to total nutcase. I think people are going to alienate themselves from him. Moderate and swing voters will evaluate the whole government, meaning the president, house, and senate. With Hillary clearly taking the presidential spot, I think moderate and swing voters will likely vote GOP to put shackles on her. They may lose the presidential, but I think they will control the house and senate. Just a speculation of course.
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10-11-2016, 03:13 PM
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the article said one interesting thing that I disagree with. It suggested that with Trump cut loose, it might alienate moderate and wing voters. I think Trump has moved from GOP nominee, to bad GOP nominee, to total nutcase. I think people are going to alienate themselves from him. Moderate and swing voters will evaluate the whole government, meaning the president, house, and senate. With Hillary clearly taking the presidential spot, I think moderate and swing voters will likely vote GOP to put shackles on her. They may lose the presidential, but I think they will control the house and senate. Just a speculation of course.
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Not if the Democrats effectively use past and present Trump alliances against the GOP candidates. Can they do it? Mostly will depend on the DNC and how they allocate their resources and target vulnerable candidates. Otherwise what you predict may come true. Let's face it, H--> is not someone the general electorate respects and is winning in spite of herself.
This is the main reason why some GOP leaders are not only distancing themselves from Trump, but vocally opposing him. For some, this may be too late and these people need to be targeted.
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