The Clinton Trump Debates...

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

OK, here's the benchmark I am going to use.

As of today Clinton has a 2.9% edge according to the RCP average of 9 polls.

These 9 polls represent a total of 45 polling days, one of which was on 9/27, presumable after the debate.

When at least 50% of the total days of the polls being used in the average contain polling data taken after the debate (9/27 and beyond) I will revisit the average and see how it compares. Anyone that has a problem with this methodology is free to object or suggest another, and I will take their comments under advisement.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html

Your proposition makes the baseless assumption that any of us give a shit about your "benchmark". I can assure you that we don't. Use whatever the fuck you want.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by JCricket

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...e-for-clinton/ Clinton won

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politi...p-debate-poll/ clinton won

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politi...p-debate-poll/ some mix, but mostly clinton won

http://nypost.com/2016/09/27/online-...e-were-rigged/ NYtimes. Initial polls that showed trump won were actually rigged and manipulated by trump supporters. Clinton actually won.

I'm talking about real polls.

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

OK, here's the benchmark I am going to use.

As of today Clinton has a 2.9% edge according to the RCP average of 9 polls.

These 9 polls represent a total of 45 polling days, one of which was on 9/27, presumable after the debate.

When at least 50% of the total days of the polls being used in the average contain polling data taken after the debate (9/27 and beyond) I will revisit the average and see how it compares. Anyone that has a problem with this methodology is free to object or suggest another, and I will take their comments under advisement.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html

Tom, I thought this was about the debate and who won it. If so, the days prior to the debate have zero bearing on this. They would simply be a way to try to confuse facts.

If the facts don't fit change them? No, change the argument then the facts get changed. Interesting debate strategy...................

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I'm talking about real polls.

I suppose those polls would only be the ones you liked and agreed with, otherwise they are fixed and bias. Right?

[barbara]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I'm talking about real polls.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.vox.c...?client=safari

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by JCricket

Tom, I thought this was about the debate and who won it. If so, the days prior to the debate have zero bearing on this. They would simply be a way to try to confuse facts.

If the facts don't fit change them? No, change the argument then the facts get changed. Interesting debate strategy...................

I don't know what criteria you think matters in these political debates, but I will tell you that there is only one criteria that matters. And that is what it means in terms of votes. This isn't some local High School or College debating team we're talking about where some panel of judges awards points.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by barbara

https://www.google.com/amp/www.vox.c...?client=safari

And that's not a real poll.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

And that's not a real poll.

You wouldn't know.... You didn't bother to read the article and the only poll you think is valid is one that favors your boy Trump.

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I don't know what criteria you think matters in these political debates, but I will tell you that there is only one criteria that matters. And that is what it means in terms of votes. This isn't some local High School or College debating team we're talking about where some panel of judges awards points.

you know Tom, if you dialed it back just a bit and tried to be a little more grounded, you might just make me mad. Right now your just a hoot and a holler to stir up. Take a break and breath, your brain really needs it right now.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by JCricket

I suppose those polls would only be the ones you liked and agreed with, otherwise they are fixed and bias. Right?

I said said quite some time ago that I would stick with the RCP average, and I have no matter what. You can look through my past posts if you don't believe me.