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Old 09-12-2016, 12:27 PM
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:04 PM
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The problem with Trump's candidacy is that being a popular choice doesn't make him a sensible competent serious candidate, and asking that those who know this treat him as such as party to his supporters' fantasy world isn't going to happen.

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Old 09-12-2016, 01:29 PM
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The problem with Trump's candidacy is that being a popular choice doesn't make him a sensible competent serious candidate, and asking that those who know this treat him as such as party to his supporters' fantasy world isn't going to happen.

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Old 09-12-2016, 01:41 PM
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Why is Trump rising in the polls and now running neck and neck with Hillary considering that he is famously judged to be a monster and unqualified to be President. I believe that this incessant Trump bashing is keeping him in the media and helping him.

Let's face it, his campaign spending is less than 5% of Hillary's and why she is forced to spend more and more time fund raising than campaigning.
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:58 PM
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Why is Trump rising in the polls and now running neck and neck with Hillary considering that he is famously judged to be a monster and unqualified to be President. I believe that this incessant Trump bashing is keeping him in the media and helping him.

Let's face it, his campaign spending is less than 5% of Hillary's and why she is forced to spend more and more time fund raising than campaigning.
It's not about the money and shouldn't be, it seems to be about populist appeal and narrow minded short term thinking. He's making a sale to folks that should know better but don't seem to care that they are being scammed by the pitch.

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Why is Trump rising in the polls and now running neck and neck with Hillary considering that he is famously judged to be a monster and unqualified to be President. I believe that this incessant Trump bashing is keeping him in the media and helping him.

Let's face it, his campaign spending is less than 5% of Hillary's and why she is forced to spend more and more time fund raising than campaigning.
Why? Because in various ways, for various reasons, a lot of folks find it feels good to support him.
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:41 PM
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Why? Because in various ways, for various reasons, a lot of folks find it feels good to support him.
One needs to wonder and analyze how people got there instead of pounding on them and disparaging them. It's the moderates that Hillary needs, not the never ever Republicans or the dyed in the wool Democrats, and that seems to be all but lost in this campaign.
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One needs to wonder and analyze how people got there instead of pounding on them and disparaging them. It's the moderates that Hillary needs, not the never ever Republicans or the dyed in the wool Democrats, and that seems to be all but lost in this campaign.

I believe you and Hillary both indeed see moderates as the key to this, as opposed to those folks in the basket....
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Trump demands an apology for Clinton's 'basket of deplorables' attack

The thing about this is you can't insult part of a group without insulting all of them.

What she said is like saying "Half of all black males are thugs."

Believe me, every black male will be offended by that.

She thinks it won't cost her electorally, but it will. Maybe not in shifting people's votes so much, but it will certainly be a rallying cry to boost the turnout of Trump voters.

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Democrat Hillary Clinton should apologize for insulting half of Donald Trump's supporters, the Republican's campaign said Saturday morning on Twitter.

The Trump camp's outrage came in response to comments Clinton made Friday evening while speaking at a fundraiser in New York. "To just be grossly generalistic," she said, "you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up."

After the line made headlines, Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway tweeted to Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill early Saturday that Clinton should issue an apology.

Clinton went on to speak more empathetically of the other half of Trump voters — "people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures" — but those remarks received considerably less attention. The Democratic nominee has yet to apologize, and per one analysis from The Washington Post, probably won't lose any votes if she refuses to do so.
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Old 09-12-2016, 05:09 PM
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The appearance of bagging his supporters with closet kluxers and the like isn't helping her, tho' he has that demographic in the bag.

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