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07-31-2016, 10:49 AM
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Russia Expert Stephen Cohen: Trump Wants To Stop The New Cold War
A positive article about Trump!
These are about as rare as Ivory Billed Woodpecker sightings!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...nderstand.html
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Stephen F. Cohen, professor emeritus of Russian studies at NYU and Princeton, spoke with CNN's 'Smerconish' Saturday morning about Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, and the 'New Cold War.'
Cohen says the media at large is doing a huge disservice to the American people by ignoring the substance of Trump's arguments about NATO and Russia, and buying the Clinton campaign's simplistic smear that Trump is a Russian "Manchurian candidate."
"That reckless branding of Trump as a Russian agent, most of it is coming from the Clinton campaign," Cohen said. "And they really need to stop."
"We're approaching a Cuban Missile Crisis level nuclear confrontation with Russia," he explained. "And there is absolutely no discussion, no debate, about this in the American media."
"Then along comes, unexpectedly, Donald Trump," he continued, "Who says he wants to end the New Cold War, and cooperate with Russia in various places... and --astonishingly-- the media is full of what only can be called neo-McCarthyite charges that he is a Russian agent, that he is a Manchurian candidate, and that he is Putin's client."
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07-31-2016, 11:15 AM
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How well did Neville Chamberlain do in appeasement? That is how I see it.
Paul Manafort has a history with Russia too.
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07-31-2016, 11:58 AM
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Trump's failures tell us what we need to know about his grasp of 'the long game', not to mention his temperament.
Not what we need against someone who understands it, and him, well enough.
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07-31-2016, 12:44 PM
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Yeah, everyone knows we can trust the Russians.......... Just ask any Ukrainian..............or any Pole, or Hungarian, or Latvian or..............
Isn't Trump the 2nd Republican "presidential" fool to tell us what a great guy Putin is?
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07-31-2016, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
How well did Neville Chamberlain do in appeasement? That is how I see it.
Paul Manafort has a history with Russia too.
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How much help was Russia in defeating Germany? We could certainly use their help fighting ISIS.
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07-31-2016, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Yeah, everyone knows we can trust the Russians.......... Just ask any Ukrainian..............or any Pole, or Hungarian, or Latvian or..............
Isn't Trump the 2nd Republican "presidential" fool to tell us what a great guy Putin is?
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How would you react if a hostile alliance was picking up member states along your border one after the other, despite assurances that they never, ever would, cross their hearts and hope to die?
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07-31-2016, 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
How would you react if a hostile alliance was picking up member states along your border one after the other, despite assurances that they never, ever would, cross their hearts and hope to die?
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A substantive question.
The Russia card is useful not only for local politics but to quiet opponents of MIC's profligacy and for those who are pissed that the IMF
is not in control of Russia.
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07-31-2016, 03:36 PM
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How much help was Russia in defeating Germany? We could certainly use their help fighting ISIS.
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Possibly if we can get them to stop bombing hospitals in Syria.
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07-31-2016, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
Possibly if we can get them to stop bombing hospitals in Syria.
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Those damned Ruskies!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...northern-syria
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07-31-2016, 03:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
How would you react if a hostile alliance was picking up member states along your border one after the other, despite assurances that they never, ever would, cross their hearts and hope to die?
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Calling those Baltic countries 'member states' seems to be a stretch. They approached NATO and voted to join after regaining their freedom from the Imperialistic Russkies.
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