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Old 07-31-2016, 11:02 AM
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Do you also think in hackneyed slogans and bumper stickerisms, Tom?

For the record, she was also a two term US Senator from New York and one of the most admired Secretary's of State on both sides of the aisle.

As to famous people making dough speaking to trade groups, colleges and such? Ask your buddy Rajoo about the practice, I'm sure he's seen it up close in Silicon Valley during his years of owning and running a business up there.
The facts are there is no way Hillary can be taking hundreds of thousands of dollars in speaking fees, and hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions from big Wall Street corporations and not be totally owned by them. No way in Hell.
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:10 PM
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In other poll news, Hillary has faded into a three point poll lead in the most recent Missouri poll. She was behind.

Funny how that "fade" has worked out.
Up 5 points nationally. Some fade...http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:13 PM
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The facts are there is no way Hillary can be taking hundreds of thousands of dollars in speaking fees, and hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions from big Wall Street corporations and not be totally owned by them. No way in Hell.
I suppose you have some evidence that she's changed a vote in the past? Let's see it.
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:23 PM
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I suppose you have some evidence that she's changed a vote in the past? Let's see it.
Bob, if a few of us here do not trust Hillary, why beat us down? IIRC, after Hillary became the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party, one of the first comments she made is that she has a trust issue with people and will have to work on it. So if she can see it, why can't you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...275_story.html
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:04 PM
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I suppose you have some evidence that she's changed a vote in the past? Let's see it.
We've already been through this a hundred times. The Bankruptcy Bill, opposed it as First Lady, voted for it as Senator from you-know-where.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:32 PM
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The choices we have now would be like going to the only restaurant around and expecting a steak baked potato salad. To be told no steak potato or salad. Truck didn't come today, but we have a cheese burger & fries or a surprise meal. Do you go with the known choice or take a chance on the unknown? Except here we have a lot more at stake the a belly ache!

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Old 07-31-2016, 01:33 PM
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We've already been through this a hundred times. The Bankruptcy Bill, opposed it as First Lady, voted for it as Senator from you-know-where.
First ladies have a vote in congress? Spare me.

Keep flogging that dead horse.
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Old 07-31-2016, 02:51 PM
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First ladies have a vote in congress? Spare me.

Keep flogging that dead horse.
She takes credit for talking Bill into vetoing the Bankruptcy Bill first time around. Said so in her autobiography.

Are you calling Hillary a liar, Bob?

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Old 07-31-2016, 02:56 PM
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Fading?

Looks like Trump just bought himself a 47 percent moment. And no one caught him with a concealed camera at a private fund raiser. Trump did it to himself. The fact that he would attack a mother who lost a son in Iraq is reprehensible, and it was a attack in that he used her religion to stereotype her.

The fact that Trump would get in a fight with a Gold Star family shows he is not playing with a full deck.
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Old 07-31-2016, 03:03 PM
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Fading?

Looks like Trump just bought himself a 47 percent moment. And no one caught him with a concealed camera at a private fund raiser. Trump did it to himself. The fact that he would attack a mother who lost a son in Iraq is reprehensible, and it was a attack in that he used her religion to stereotype her.

The fact that Trump would get in a fight with a Gold Star family shows he is not playing with a full deck.
One of countless other reprehensible statements and actions. And still Hillary can't pull clear. This will change nothing. His supporters will think what he did in this case is perfectly okay because he was attacking a Muslim.
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