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07-29-2016, 12:16 PM
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two holes here, that is all.
the square GOP hole and the round DEm hole.
If you can't get into the round hole you are shoved into the square hole.
No other options.
You know, it is the same reaction as when I did not condemn Trump.
Your are either blind with us or you are stupid and with them.
I really though we were past that when dealing with strictly feelings....
Well, I guess they are right, I am not so smart.
What to see my onions? 
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I don't know where you get all this stuff.
Someone disagrees with you about something. So that means you have to go into one of two holes? No it does not.
Someone disagrees with you about something. So that means you are either blind with us or stupid with them? No it does not.
Someone disagrees with you about something. So that means your privlege to have feeling is being denied? No it does not.
Someone disagrees with you about something. Does that mean they are right, and you are not so smart? No it does not.
It seems to me that you take disagreement pretty hard. But I could be wrong.
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07-29-2016, 12:18 PM
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yes, your feeling would be vaild.
But you mixed more than just feeling into your question. Sort of gummed it up. 
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Is a good idea for me to highly resent that you have told me I sort of gummed it up?
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07-29-2016, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MrPots
Goodness, it wasn't just Barbara, it's all the smug judgmental democrats in my life. Why should I vote for a party who's members find me, an older white male, to be everything that is wrong with this world?
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You an older white male, shoot you are just a young man from where I sit.
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07-29-2016, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
LOL
he wanted it, he got it
as far as I am concerned it's on him
seriously, barb has been adversarial and frankly petty and spiteful to me even since I refused to take a generic answer from her and pressed her. It was not in an antagonistic way that I pressed her, it was in the same manner in which I would in the work place or with my kids. She was unable to explain what she claimed. My exposing her was an accident not by design. She has never gotten over it however.
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By the way, I appreciate your cartoon and this post.
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You exposed nothing.
You tried to put words in my mouth and tell me how I felt and I didn't put up with that.
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07-29-2016, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Hate? Kicked in the nuts? Barbara?
I see you saying that, not her.
Barbara, do you hate on pots? was it your intent to kick him in the nuts?
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Don, while I don't always agree with everyone here, I have respect for all the posters.
Everyone has a right to their opinion.
Even those that are mad at me.
I believe that white privilege, including white female privilege, is so ingrained in our society that many don't realize how they continue to perpetuate it. I include myself in this as I'm just as human as the next guy.
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07-29-2016, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
On the way to full inclusion in American society, a status white males have always enjoyed. What I'm hearing here today sounds like simple jealousy and I have no sympathy for it at all.
What you two are spouting is the essence of Trump's appeal. You guys need to get a grip. The party is over. And that pasty white skin of yours will still earn you a lot of undeserved privilege.
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Who is "you guys"? And I think you completely missed my point. Completely and utterly.
I DON'T CARE that these folks are moving into the mainstream and becoming the new face of our nation. In fact, I LIKE it, John. I deeply dislike the assumption of any perceived birthright base on race, religion or ethnicity. White men will have to compete for success now and that is just how it is. No more being handed an easy path and "...following the old man into the mill.", so to speak. Those days are long, long gone and we will just have to get used to it. The kids and grandkids will just have to go get their own.
I believe that is how it should have ALWAYS been.
To me, Trump represents the Old World, desperate to survive. A spoiled, conceited, arrogant and privileged rich brat, the male version of Veruca Salt who thinks he is the backbone of humanity. The truth is that he is not. America and the world would still exist without him. We owe him nothing.
Michael Forbes is my hero.
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07-29-2016, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by barbara
Don, while I don't always agree with everyone here, I have respect for all the posters.
Everyone has a right to their opinion.
Even those that are mad at me.
I believe that white privilege, including white female privilege, is so ingrained in our society that many don't realize how they continue to perpetuate it. I include myself in this as I'm just as human as the next guy.
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Exactly. Me too, Barb.
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07-29-2016, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
No more being handed an easy path and "...following the old man into the mill.", so to speak. Those days are long, long gone.
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..... two thoughts
these days will never be gone but it's not about color, it's about family and who you now, the luck of birth and what was so easy for me that wasn't for my female counter part?
My black counterpart operated a disadvantage, yes, but women????
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07-29-2016, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
I don't know where you get all this stuff.
Someone disagrees with you about something. So that means you have to go into one of two holes? No it does not.
Someone disagrees with you about something. So that means you are either blind with us or stupid with them? No it does not.
Someone disagrees with you about something. So that means your privlege to have feeling is being denied? No it does not.
Someone disagrees with you about something. Does that mean they are right, and you are not so smart? No it does not.
It seems to me that you take disagreement pretty hard. But I could be wrong.
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this makes no sense but to confuse.... it's just annoying
what I would suggest is that you read the posts again with an open mind or better yet, from a different perspective.
no one wants to see my onions.......
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07-29-2016, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Who is "you guys"? And I think you completely missed my point. Completely and utterly.
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Noon andMrPots. I quoted your post but I wasn't rebutting it. I was expanding on it.
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I DON'T CARE that these folks are moving into the mainstream and becoming the new face of our nation. In fact, I LIKE it, John. I deeply dislike the assumption of any perceived birthright base on race, religion or ethnicity. White men will have to compete for success now and that is just how it is. No more being handed an easy path and "...following the old man into the mill.", so to speak. Those days are long, long gone and we will just have to get used to it. The kids and grandkids will just have to go get their own.
I believe that is how it should have ALWAYS been.
To me, Trump represents the Old World, desperate to survive. A spoiled, conceited, arrogant and privileged rich brat, the male version of Veruca Salt who thinks he is the backbone of humanity. The truth is that he is not. America and the world would still exist without him. We owe him nothing.
Michael Forbes is my hero.
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I agree with this entirely and am frankly surprised that you didn't see that.
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