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Old 07-29-2016, 09:49 AM
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Now you are getting incoherent.
What 'you' of you did the party fail to address, and was it that, or something /someone here in the forum that set you off?

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Old 07-29-2016, 09:53 AM
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If the party has "left you", leave the party. Become an independent and vote for the best available candidate. That's where I am. My days as a registered Democrat are over as of 11/8/2016. And I'm going to vote for Clinton.
Since the available candidates represent the democrat or republican platform and not the people I don't have a candidate. That the democrats do less damage than the republicans is no reason to vote for them.

Lacking a candidate that is not a party parrot, lacking a candidate who will govern with his/her own mind, I have no one to vote for.
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:55 AM
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If the party has "left you", leave the party. Become an independent and vote for the best available candidate. That's where I am. My days as a registered Democrat are over as of 11/8/2016. And I'm going to vote for Clinton.

Don't let spite dictate your vote.


Boreas, I passed that threshold a few elections ago. I register as "undeclared".

I have voted both republican and democrat... Just looking for the one who best represents me.
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:56 AM
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Since the available candidates represent the democrat or republican platform and not the people I don't have a candidate. That the democrats do less damage than the republicans is no reason to vote for them.

Lacking a candidate that is not a party parrot, lacking a candidate who will govern with his/her own mind, I have no one to vote for.
No more or no less than Bernie would have.
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:57 AM
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Now you are getting incoherent.
What 'you' of you did the party fail to address, and was it that, or something /someone here in the forum that set you off?

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This and another forum. I've been stewing on it for months. Liberal posters who I thought were friends jumping my shit and saying the most hateful things because I hesitated on jumping on the Hillary bandwagon. Some illusions I had about the party huh? I thought were were the unifiers and peacekeepers....

I was wrong.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:04 AM
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This and another forum. I've been stewing on it for months. Liberal posters who I thought were friends jumping my shit and saying the most hateful things because I hesitated on jumping on the Hillary bandwagon. Some illusions I had about the party huh? I thought were were the unifiers and peacekeepers....

I was wrong.
I take some of the stuff that goes on here as tongue in cheek banter, but sometimes it goes way over the line, and when it doesnt it's hard to tell whether it is serious or not.


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Old 07-29-2016, 10:07 AM
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I do think putting a reactionary uninformed narcissistic fool in the WH isn't the answer to anything, and will condemn the country to a rule of dogmatic chaos.

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Boreas, I passed that threshold a few elections ago. I register as "undeclared".

I have voted both republican and democrat... Just looking for the one who best represents me.
Except for Virginia, I've always voted in closed primary states until the changes to California rules. I registered as a Democrat so that I could vote in the primaries. Since it's now possible for NPP voters to vote in the California Democratic primary, I can't think of a good reason to be a registered Democrat.

There's a movement now among younger registered Democrats. It's called #DemExit.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:07 AM
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This and another forum. I've been stewing on it for months. Liberal posters who I thought were friends jumping my shit and saying the most hateful things because I hesitated on jumping on the Hillary bandwagon. Some illusions I had about the party huh? I thought were were the unifiers and peacekeepers....

I was wrong.
Glad to see I am not alone in feeling this way.

I wonder if others felt this?

Frankly, unless someone in the media references it, it does not exist. If just one talking head points it out, it becomes an issue for the dEms and an opening for Trump.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:16 AM
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Glad to see I am not alone in feeling this way.

I wonder if others felt this?

Frankly, unless someone in the media references it, it does not exist. If just one talking head points it out, it becomes an issue for the dEms and an opening for Trump.
The illusion of central position is a tough thing to let go of.

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