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07-28-2016, 09:17 AM
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I'm sick and tired of people saying that the only defense for supporting Hilary is that she isn't Trump.
Several times, several posters have given legitimate reasons for supporting Hilary, citing her many years of experience, extensive international and domestic knowledge, and accomplishments.
Yes, she has her flaws, just like anyone else.... I'm not saying she is perfect. But she also has the resume to back up her qualification for the job.
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The question was directed specifically to Robbin.
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07-28-2016, 09:23 AM
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The question was directed specifically to Robbin.
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That might be true, but the comment was posted on a public forum for all of us to read and comment on if we choose to. And, I chose to.
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07-28-2016, 09:31 AM
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The Clintonistas haven't been keeping us up to date on Nate Silver's forecast lately so I thought I would.
He now gives Clinton a 53.3% to 46.7% chance of winning. He predicts an popular vote victory of 46.2% to 44.9%, or 1.3% and an electoral college vote of 275.8 to 261.7, or a margin of 14.1 votes.
Just one month ago Silver was predicting a blowout of epic proportions on the order of 80% to 20%.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...=2016-election
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07-28-2016, 09:39 AM
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That might be true, but the comment was posted on a public forum for all of us to read and comment on if we choose to. And, I chose to.
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Care to comment on this?
Mistrust of Clinton on trade shadows her at Democratic convention
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Things are unlikely to get any easier for her. Clinton has said her stance on trade has evolved, that she now opposes TPP because it does not do enough to protect jobs and that she wants changes in NAFTA, the trade deal her husband, Bill Clinton, signed during his presidency.
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This is going to be a significant issue for this election and also a cornerstone of the Bernie revolution. So what do your predict remembering that she has already taken and will need to spend the money to get elected.
Do you really believe that she can or sill deliver on this 'campaign promise'?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN1081GM
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07-28-2016, 09:47 AM
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Care to comment on this?
Mistrust of Clinton on trade shadows her at Democratic convention
This is going to be a significant issue for this election and also a cornerstone of the Bernie revolution. So what do your predict remembering that she has already taken and will need to spend the money to get elected.
Do you really believe that she can or sill deliver on this 'campaign promise'?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN1081GM
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Did I ever say she was perfect?
Has any politician been able to deliver on all of their campaign promises?
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07-28-2016, 09:49 AM
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That might be true, but the comment was posted on a public forum for all of us to read and comment on if we choose to. And, I chose to.
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But your comment didn't address the question that was asked which makes it pretty much irrelevant.
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07-28-2016, 09:52 AM
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One last comment....
I have always liked Bernie's platform, his ideas, and his vision, however, I know enough about how things work in government to know that he would never have been able to move his ideas forward.
There are some things I don't like about Clinton. But, she has a better chance at realizing at least part of her overall vision.
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07-28-2016, 09:54 AM
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But your comment didn't address the question that was asked which makes it pretty much irrelevant.
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Irrelevant to you.
And that is fine by me.
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07-28-2016, 09:57 AM
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One last comment....
I have always liked Bernie's platform, his ideas, and his vision, however, I know enough about how things work in government to know that he would never have been able to move his ideas forward.
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I suspect that would have been your assessment of FDR too.
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There are some things I don't like about Clinton. But, she has a better chance at realizing at least part of her overall vision.
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She has to get elected first. That's uncertain and getting uncertainer by the hour.
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07-28-2016, 10:06 AM
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I suspect that would have been your assessment of FDR too.
She has to get elected first. That's uncertain and getting uncertainer by the hour.
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Here's the thing, Boreas.....
You have every right to not like Clinton and I respect that. In fact, I respect you and have always gleaned wisdom from your posts.
But, even if one dislikes Clinton with every fiber of their being.... How can that justify supporting Trump? Are the tables turned here.... Trump supporters only support him because he isn't Clinton? Or, do you really think.... Deep down in your heart and soul, that Trump is the best candidate with no experience, no knowledge of foreign and domestic affairs, and thinking he can run government like a business?
If your answer is yes.... Then by all means.... Support him.
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