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Old 07-20-2016, 08:55 AM
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The Left Unhinged - Military Coup If Trump Elected

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...nap-story.html

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Americans viewing the recent failed coup attempt in Turkey as some exotic foreign news story -- the latest, violent yet hardly unusual political development to occur in a region constantly beset by turmoil -- should pause to consider that the prospect of similar instability would not be unfathomable in this country if Donald Trump were to win the presidency.

Try to imagine, then, a situation in which Trump commanded our military to do something stupid, illegal or irrational. Something so dangerous that it put the lives of Americans and the security of the country at stake. (Trump’s former rival for the Republican presidential nomination, Marco Rubio, said the United States could not trust “the nuclear codes” to an “erratic individual.”)

In that case, our military men and women, who swear to uphold the Constitution and a civilian chain of command, would be forced to choose between obeying the law and serving the wishes of someone who has explicitly expressed his utter lack of respect for it.

They might well choose the former.


Trump is not only patently unfit to be president, but a danger to America and the world. Voters must stop him before the military has to.

So, now we have the LA Times publishing an editorial advocating a military coup if Trump is elected? In the spirit of balance, will be get a similar story about how we need to be vigilant with a Hillary presidency to guard the country against the anticipated impact of lying, compromised ethics, and pay to play politics? I won't hold my breath.
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:18 AM
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No Whell, what the Times was citing was that the military has a responsibility to obey DIRECT and LAWFUL orders, but is not bound to obey unlawful orders. If Trump goes off the deep end in certain areas, military commanders would have little problem conferring with one another and halting a poor order.

Call it what you may.
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:21 AM
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If elected, Trump will naturally seek to have disloyal officers arrested, to preclude anything like this. Throw a couple thousand in a camp, and the rest will get the idea....
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:43 AM
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Just like FDR did with all those disloyal citizens during WWII?
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:53 AM
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http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...nap-story.html



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Americans viewing the recent failed coup attempt in Turkey as some exotic foreign news story -- the latest, violent yet hardly unusual political development to occur in a region constantly beset by turmoil -- should pause to consider that the prospect of similar instability would not be unfathomable in this country if Donald Trump were to win the presidency.



Try to imagine, then, a situation in which Trump commanded our military to do something stupid, illegal or irrational. Something so dangerous that it put the lives of Americans and the security of the country at stake. (Trump’s former rival for the Republican presidential nomination, Marco Rubio, said the United States could not trust “the nuclear codes” to an “erratic individual.”)



In that case, our military men and women, who swear to uphold the Constitution and a civilian chain of command, would be forced to choose between obeying the law and serving the wishes of someone who has explicitly expressed his utter lack of respect for it.



They might well choose the former.




Trump is not only patently unfit to be president, but a danger to America and the world. Voters must stop him before the military has to.



So, now we have the LA Times publishing an editorial advocating a military coup if Trump is elected? In the spirit of balance, will be get a similar story about how we need to be vigilant with a Hillary presidency to guard the country against the anticipated impact of lying, compromised ethics, and pay to play politics? I won't hold my breath.


"...lying, compromised ethics, and pay to play politics..."

Sounds like Trump more than any other politician.
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Just like FDR did with all those disloyal citizens during WWII?
And President Trump would cite Japanese internment as a precedent.
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:28 AM
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Republicans and Trump entertain camp idea:

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Rhode Island state Sen. Elaine Morgan (R) said in an email Tuesday that the United States shouldn’t take in Syrian refugees because “[t]he Muslim religion and philosophy is to murder, rape, and decapitate anyone [who]is a non Muslim.” And if the country does bring them in, “we should set up refugee camp to keep them segregated from our populous [sic].”

Tennessee state House GOP Caucus Chairman Glen Casada proposed finding all the Syrian refugees in the state, rounding up them up and sending them back to a federal immigration center.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b031745cef5cc8

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According to a Public Policy Polling survey of usual Republican primary voters in Iowa, 48% of Trump voters say they support the use of Japanese internment during World War II, while only 21% oppose it.
https://mic.com/articles/130476/near...dea#.rHvuhL8xB

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Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump told TIME that he does not know whether he would have supported or opposed the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II. “I would have had to be there at the time to tell you, to give you a proper answer,” he said during a recent interview in his office in New York City.
http://time.com/4140050/donald-trump...se-internment/
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:37 AM
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What are these people going to do if Trump loses? What will they do if he wins?
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:49 AM
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I don't see that Trump's entertaining the idea. His comment is on FDR's Japanese-American internment policy. The policy of liberal Democrats.

FWIW, things today could progress to where perceptions of the problem have arrived at a point where Presisent Clinton could very well implement FDR like solutions against the perceived threating groups.
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Old 07-20-2016, 11:08 AM
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I don't see that Trump's entertaining the idea. His comment is on FDR's Japanese-American internment policy. The policy of liberal Democrats.
The policy of the military.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._DeWitt

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FWIW, things today could progress to where perceptions of the problem have arrived at a point where Presisent Clinton could very well implement FDR like solutions against the perceived threating groups.
For Muslims or for black people?
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