Always starts as a peaceful protest - Page 12

Rajoo · #**111** 07-11-2016, 11:33 AM

Sorry whell I disagree. Yes there already is (was) a wall of riot geared police force that seems well equipped to stop this lady. They could have sent a plain clothes (a well dressed) cop or even a woman officer to affect the arrest instead a show of force.

These cops deserve the PR disaster not to mention a perfect a photo op for the demonstrators, a professionally shot picture to boot.

Compare this to the nuts cases in Oregon a few months ago as they unlawfully occupied a government building.

whell · #**112** 07-11-2016, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo

As I said, what constitutes a peaceful protest. Can people spontaneously congregate or do they always need a permit, and we know where that will go, bureaucratic red tape.

Yes they can, and they can continue to congregate until ordered by police to disperse. Police gave an order to disperse and gave folks lots of time to comply. If folks chose not to comply, like the idiot in the picture, they got arrested.

whell · #**113** 07-11-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo

Sorry whell I disagree.

I'm not surprised. But don't be surprised when folks who fail to comply with a police order get detained. Just because this is a BLM protest doesn't entitle a protestor to unique treatment.

donquixote99 · #**114** 07-11-2016, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

Yes they can, and they can continue to congregate until ordered by police to disperse. Police gave an order to disperse and gave folks lots of time to comply. If folks chose not to comply, like the idiot in the picture, they got arrested.

Ha ha! Right. She's the idiot.

Rajoo · #**115** 07-11-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

Yes they can, and they can continue to congregate until ordered by police to disperse. Police gave an order to disperse and gave folks lots of time to comply. If folks chose not to comply, like the idiot in the picture, they got arrested.

Bingo! which really means that effectively no congregation, especially by the BLM crowd is ever possible, especially in deep red states like TX and LA. guess, this will lead to frustration, anger and unfortunately violence.

Speaking of special treatments, you have not commented on the special treatment that the Bundy clan got in OR. And that was an unlawful occupation.

I will understand if that you deem is a deflection.

BlueStreak · #**116** 07-11-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

There's no "thuggery" going on there at all. There are police removing an idiot who refused to clear the street after being ordered to do so.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/us/bat...er-photograph/

Shot by Jonathan Bachman for Reuters, the photograph shows a black woman in profile, standing in the middle of the street as two police officers in riot gear seem to be preparing to arrest her in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

"Everyone was given proper instructions and a certain amount of time to clear the roadway. If they did not, then they were arrested," said L'Jean McKneely, spokesman for the Baton Rouge Police Department.

So, citizens should just shut up and clear the streets when government officials command them to? And, how do you know this woman is an "idiot"? You've met her?

BlueStreak · #**117** 07-11-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo

Bingo! which really means that effectively no congregation, especially by the BLM crowd is ever possible, especially in deep red states like TX and LA. guess, this will lead to frustration, anger and unfortunately violence.

Speaking of special treatments, you have not commented on the special treatment that the Bundy clan got in OR. And that was an unlawful occupation.

I will understand if that you deem is a deflection.

That's exactly right. But....... I'm the "race baiter". LMAO! Right.

ZeroJunk · #**118** 07-11-2016, 12:38 PM

I like what the Dallas police chief said to the protestors. " We're hiring. "

whell · #**119** 07-11-2016, 01:19 PM

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So, citizens should just shut up and clear the streets when government officials command them to? And, how do you know this woman is an "idiot"? You've met her?

If she's still standing there in front of a police line after being told to clear the area, then yes, she's an idiot.

And yet, the police have the duty and authority to maintain order, which includes ordering a crowd to disperse. When that order comes, citizens should just shut up and clear the area. In this case, the cops gave the crowd plenty of time to protest, then even more time after the order to clear the area was given. Anyone still standing there, like the idiot in the picture, is subject to arrest or being detained by police.

merrylander · #**120** 07-11-2016, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

If she's still standing there in front of a police line after being told to clear the area, then yes, she's an idiot.

And yet, the police have the duty and authority to maintain order, which includes ordering a crowd to disperse. When that order comes, citizens should just shut up and clear the area. In this case, the cops gave the crowd plenty of time to protest, then even more time after the order to clear the area was given. Anyone still standing there, like the idiot in the picture, is subject to arrest or being detained by police.

... or the right of the people to peaceably assemble ... Familiar reading Mike?

I guess if you are dressed in riot gear every assembly looks like a riot.