Obama clears up the name game

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by Boreas

So let's start deporting fundies.

Well, if they're fundies that are here illegally, I'm all for it. If they're fundies that were born here, I think you're probably talking exile, not deportation. I'm not sure we do exile any more, so perhaps we use the legal system and try them for crimes, convict, and imprison them, you know the legal way.
If there's evidence that they support a perverted form of christianity that calls for violence, murder, or illegally establishing theocratic rule in place of our laws, we have laws in place to try and convict them of those crimes.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Then it follows that you must be aware of some statements of the President's which are critical of religion and of Christianity. Care to share them with us?

Sorry, I'm too busy bitterly clinging to my guns and my religion to contribute.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Then it follows that you must be aware of some statements of the President's which are critical of religion and of Christianity. Care to share them with us?

Have you heard of search engines? You can do a search for "obama christianity quotes" and then you can pick from a whole bunch of different web sites on the subject. You will find lots of stuff. Some positive quotes and some critical.
Then you could do another search for "obama islam quotes" and again find lots of different sites with quotes he's made about islam, all positive.

You get back to me and let me know how it went.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Sorry, I'm too busy bitterly clinging to my guns and my religion to contribute.

That is not a criticism of religion but of the way in which some people use it. If you see yourself in that statement, that's your problem. The President has made numerous harsher statements regarding the way in which Islamist terrorists use theirs.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Have you heard of search engines? You can do a search for "obama christianity quotes" and then you can pick from a whole bunch of different web sites on the subject. You will find lots of stuff. Some positive quotes and some critical.
Then you could do another search for "obama islam quotes" and again find lots of different sites with quotes he's made about islam, all positive.

You get back to me and let me know how it went.

It's not up to me to find support for your accusations or whell's. Back them up or shut up.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by Boreas

That is not a criticism of religion but of the way in which some people use it. If you see yourself in that statement, that's your problem. The President has made numerous harsher statements regarding the way in which Islamist terrorists use theirs.

Wrong. He may have made harsh statements about "terror groups" or "extremists", but he has never made a harsh statement about islamist terrorists.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by Boreas

It's not up to me to find support for your accusations or whell's. Back them up or shut up.

It's not up to me to find support for your accusations that my accusations are counter-factual and ignorant.
See how that works?

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Fundamentalists of any stripe are a humongous pain in the ass.

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True! However the Islamists seemed to be ubiquitous and better financed.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

That is not a criticism of religion but of the way in which some people use it. If you see yourself in that statement, that's your problem. The President has made numerous harsher statements regarding the way in which Islamist terrorists use theirs.

...in your opinion. I think it communicates a disdain for persons of faith, particularly Christian faith.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Profoundly stupid is trying to somehow equate a single incident to my theory of terming an overall problem. How do Obama's words treat christianity/christians as a group, overall, and does it differ from how he treats islam/muslims?
I can find quotes that are critical of organized religion overall. I can find quotes that are critical of christianity and the bible.
I don't see any that are critical of islam.

Most of the Muslims ignore the nasty bits in their book like most of the Christians ignore the nasty bits in their book.

There are 1.5 billion Muslims. What percentage of them would you like to radicalize because one guy shouted 'Allahu Akbar?' Because Obama is the President, what he says has great official and psychological weight. Just let him say something that parses to 'Islam is our enemy,' and the cost would be Orlando times x.

It is a stupid trope for bigots to say "Either Obama says 'Islamic radicals' or he's against us."