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06-02-2016, 02:11 PM
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Here you go, Bob. Believe it or not, your choice. We've had Clinton operatives mucking around in polling places and caucus rooms since the primaries began. We've had Senators taunting Sanders supporters from the podium and then claiming that they were in fear for their lives when they were booed in response. Quite a disgusting performance by the party establishment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW0bfSsdRbY
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06-02-2016, 02:20 PM
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Typical Hillary supporter: wasting time arguing about why a thing can't be done.  Johnson's own Congressional majorities were incredibly hostile to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and the Civil Rights Act of 1968, yet he got them all passed. It's called leadership, something that Hillary has never been able to demonstrate.
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You are proving my point. LBJ HAD a Democratic Congress and look how hard it was.
Can't be done? Or shouldn't be done?
If Hillary has more states and more delegates should not democracy work?
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06-02-2016, 02:40 PM
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You are proving my point. LBJ HAD a Democratic Congress and look how hard it was.
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I just refuted your point. Governing is hard, ice, but effective governance can overcome very stiff opposition. The New Deal is another case in point. When the electorate demands something, it's the job of a representative government to oppose the legislature if necessary. LBJ, FDR and even BHO did. That's my point.
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Can't be done? Or shouldn't be done?
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Can't is what I'm saying. What points of Bernie's platform shouldn't be done and why?
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If Hillary has more states and more delegates should not democracy work?
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That would depend on how she came by them.
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06-02-2016, 02:42 PM
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Here you go, Bob. Believe it or not, your choice. We've had Clinton operatives mucking around in polling places and caucus rooms since the primaries began. We've had Senators taunting Sanders supporters from the podium and then claiming that they were in fear for their lives when they were booed in response. Quite a disgusting performance by the party establishment.
https://www.facebook.com/ashley.beck...4248893761095/
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I can assure you Ashley wasn't at my pollworker orientation class where the subject of NPP voting was extensively covered and covered correctly per the handbook.
ps Here's what I got when I clicked on your link.
"Sorry, this content isn't available right now. The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in."
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06-02-2016, 02:50 PM
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I just refuted your point. Governing is hard, ice, but effective governance can overcome very stiff opposition. The New Deal is another case in point. When the electorate demands something, it's the job of a representative government to oppose the legislature if necessary. LBJ, FDR and even BHO did. That's my point.
Can't is what I'm saying. What points of Bernie's platform shouldn't be done and why?
That would depend on how she came by them.
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They had friendly Congresses with majorities (Obama for just 2 years).
Just because Bernie's followers are demanding stuff does not mean that the democratic process should not be allowed to work. You have to win the nomination first, and then the general.
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06-02-2016, 02:52 PM
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"Sorry, this content isn't available right now. The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in."
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New linkie
Facebook must have taken the post down, the chickenshits!
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06-02-2016, 02:53 PM
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That's a pretty cheap shot, Robbin.
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Legit question.
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06-02-2016, 02:56 PM
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Typical Hillary supporter: wasting time arguing about why a thing can't be done.  Johnson's own Congressional majorities were incredibly hostile to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and the Civil Rights Act of 1968, yet he got them all passed. It's called leadership, something that Hillary has never been able to demonstrate.
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Ok how is Bernie's stuff going to get done if he can't beat Hillary in the primaries?
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06-02-2016, 03:02 PM
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If Hillary has more states and more delegates should not democracy work?
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How did she get them is the Billion Dollar question.
It's a travesty to use Hillary and democracy in the same sentence. Everything she does is paid for handsomely. She should become partners with $ara Palin and go into lobbying.
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06-02-2016, 03:08 PM
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Facebook must have taken the post down, the chickenshits!
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Meh. An anecdotal story posted on YouTube is now prima facie evidence that NPPs are going to be issued provisional ballots?
My experience was completely different and the trainer provided the correct information.
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