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06-02-2016, 12:05 PM
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Enjoy your smug taunting while you can.
It's not going to work so well for you during the general election campaign when you have to go to those same independent voters with your hat in your hand and ask them to vote for the candidate that you selected without their input.
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Cry me a river, TJ. 
If anyone has a corner on smug condescension, that would be Bernie or Busters.
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06-02-2016, 12:14 PM
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Six parties in California set their rules.
Dems, Libertarians and AI's allow NPP crossover voters while Greens, Repubs and P&F's don't.
Don't like it? Join the party of your choice and change the party rules. 
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Yes Your Priggishness. Now I know exactly how some Bernie or Busters feel.
(Since Smug and Pompous are already taken).
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06-02-2016, 12:28 PM
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06-02-2016, 01:25 PM
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"Hillary Clinton raised more than $27 million for her primary campaign in May and pulled in another $13.5 million for the Democratic National Committee and state parties, her campaign announced Wednesday." USAToday
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...bank/85271572/
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06-02-2016, 01:51 PM
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Last I checked we have six parties in California.
As to who pays for the primaries? The taxpayers do, the same as they pay for other infrastructure.
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Are independents tax-exempt?
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06-02-2016, 01:55 PM
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"Hillary Clinton raised more than $27 million for her primary campaign in May and pulled in another $13.5 million for the Democratic National Committee and state parties, her campaign announced Wednesday." USAToday
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...bank/85271572/

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Hillary has never had a problem raising money from the oligarchy.
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06-02-2016, 02:13 PM
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Are independents tax-exempt?
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Not afaik. Do you think they should be?
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06-02-2016, 02:19 PM
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Not afaik. Do you think they should be?
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That isn't the point, Bob. If Independents pay taxes and taxes are used to fund primaries, isn't it a case of "taxation without representation" to deny them the right to vote in them?
But I think you knew what I meant and didn't want to acknowledge that you'd laid a logic trap for yourself.
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06-02-2016, 02:32 PM
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That isn't the point, Bob. If Independents pay taxes and taxes are used to fund primaries, isn't it a case of "taxation without representation" to deny them the right to vote in them?
But I think you knew what I meant and didn't want to acknowledge that you'd laid a logic trap for yourself.
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Other than the fact that NPPs can vote in the Democratic primary here in California, you might have a point.
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06-02-2016, 02:44 PM
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Other than the fact that NPPs can vote in the Democratic primary here in California, you might have a point. 
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I realize that, Bob. My post was meant to address the antidemocratic nature of closed primaries and support the post from Rajoo you were replying to.
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