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06-01-2016, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
And yet 40% of our registered voters are registered as independents.
They are locked out of closed primaries.
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They knew the rules and registered as they wished to register. What's it to you?
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06-01-2016, 12:01 PM
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Persona non grata
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Originally Posted by finnbow
They knew the rules and registered as they wished to register. What's it to you?
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It's no surprise to me that you are OK with disenfranchising 40% of the nations voters because they choose not to join one of the private clubs known as the Democrats and the Republicans, elitist snob that you are.
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06-01-2016, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
They knew the rules and registered as they wished to register. What's it to you?
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Who is paying to conduct the primary elections in each state?
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06-01-2016, 12:53 PM
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Guilt tripping:
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“There are two clear messages: one, that we need to work together, and two, that Hillary Clinton will move forward a populist, progressive agenda,” said Mo Elleithee, a former Democratic National Committee official and a former Clinton aide. “It’s reassuring them that their message and their goal will be heard.”
He added: “Do folks want to be responsible for putting Donald Trump in the White House? Because it could happen.”
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How will Hillary move a populist progressive agenda when she is buried in IOU's? Of course the he is a DNC/Clinton hack. 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f3f_story.html
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06-01-2016, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Perhaps I am a bit.
However, I would submit to you that the real delusional ones are those that accept our electoral system as fair without question.
Remember, I was in Florida during the 2000 election.
There were all kinds of shenanigans being pulled by the Bush machine there.
Do I think the Clinton machine would do something similar?
Absolutely I do.
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I did not mean to suggest that the political system was sane, it is not, in fact I am not exactly crazy about the form of government either.
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06-01-2016, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
And why not? Any legally eligible voter should be able to vote in the primary election for a party of their choosing. One vote to be cast for the candidate they support. Isn't the intent of the primary to whittle down the number of candidates so that we will not have a situation like CA where Schwarzenegger got elected governor?
Is a two party (and no more) enshrined in the constitution?
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But Rajoo that is what the close primary does - and since independents have not chosen a party they do not vote. I can just picture the havoc that could occur if primaries were wide open. You hate the NNN party front runner so you vote for some asshole.
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06-01-2016, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nailer
Which is probably why Texas has open primaries.
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Which explains a lot (apologies to my late wife but she got the hell out once she was of age)
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06-01-2016, 01:19 PM
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I would be real curious to see a breakdown of Clinton's donors - besides me that is. 
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06-01-2016, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
We have two parties that have a stranglehold on our political system.
They have the only game in town until all the choices have been narrowed down to two.
And yet 40% of our registered voters are registered as independents.
They are locked out of closed primaries.
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The two party system is not enshrined anywhere, if 40% are independents then why doon't they pull the finger out and form a party?
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06-01-2016, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
But Rajoo that is what the close primary does - and since independents have not chosen a party they do not vote. I can just picture the havoc that could occur if primaries were wide open. You hate the NNN party front runner so you vote for some asshole. |
An independent should have the option of voting for either one of the major parties. I came back to my question, who is paying for these primaries that the two major parties have a stranglehold on?
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