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Old 05-03-2016, 01:19 PM
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If you're on the left and a climate change supporter, those two goals are mutually exclusive.
No shit, Sherlock. That's why the left doesn't trust her.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:21 PM
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You need to read some biographies of past Presidents to better understand things Not all were perfect, and many had to compromise and even doublespeak to accomplish policy goals For better or worse, Hillary is the better politician than Bernie, and is the only choice we have against Trump.
And you need to stop making excuses for your girl.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:34 PM
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No shit, Sherlock. That's why the left doesn't trust her.
Why so angry, John?
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:39 PM
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You need to read some biographies of past Presidents to better understand things Not all were perfect, and many had to compromise and even doublespeak to accomplish policy goals For better or worse, Hillary is the better politician than Bernie, and is the only choice we have against Trump.
I will agree with you but guess what, Hillary is not President yet and that nightmare is a few months away. She is now campaigning for nomination and so what is she, for clean energy or coal energy, or speaking from both sides of her mouth?

Did you read today that she is going to appoint Bill as her 'Manufacturing Jobs' president, another shameless attempt to co-opt Bernie's platform. Hope she uses perfume as she campaigns because she sure as hell stinks.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:40 PM
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And you need to stop making excuses for your girl.
If Hillary is the establishment, and presents the greatest bulwark against Trump, then I am going for the establishment. All Sanders is doing is helping Trump at this stage.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:42 PM
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Why so angry, John?
Hillary has that mesmerizing effect on some of us here.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:51 PM
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If Hillary is the establishment, and presents the greatest bulwark against Trump, then I am going for the establishment. All Sanders is doing is helping Trump at this stage.
Around half the Democrats support Bernie over Hillary and she needs Bernie's supporters to win. Bernie is not hurting Hillary, (that's an establishment/DNC guilt tripping at work), Hillary is hurting herself with these ridiculous campaign tactics which only helps alienate Bernie supporters even more. If you haven't noticed, Trump seems to have the nomination sown up and Hillary should be looking ahead and try to woo Bernie's supporters.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:57 PM
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No if about it.
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Old 05-03-2016, 02:00 PM
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If Hillary is the establishment, and presents the greatest bulwark against Trump, then I am going for the establishment. All Sanders is doing is helping Trump at this stage.
Another poll out showing Trump edging ahead of her nationally. She still leads in the aggregate average but that's getting narrower all the time. By the time November rolls around she will down by double digits. And there will be great wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst you Hillary backers. And don't even think about trying to put that on Bernie. You will have done it to yourselves by backing a loser.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...d-over-clinton
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Old 05-03-2016, 02:01 PM
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Here is an example of Hillary's trust factor, or lack thereof. She is for clean energy while professing to support the coal industry, only because she got in trouble in West Virginia. This is what differentiates her from Bernie. Hillary is a female version of Romney.

Clinton vows to support U.S. coal regions while embracing cleaner energy

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0XU1TV
The headline says the exact opposite of what she said and what her policies are towards out of work coal miners. This is Whell worthy, nice try...
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