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Old 04-20-2016, 11:58 AM
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Perhaps we should call a convocation of Knights Errant to solve the New York State primary process which disenfranchises Independents...
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Old 04-20-2016, 01:39 PM
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There's nothing that says that a political party must use a democratic process to pick its nominee. Never has been, never will be.
And since the two corporate parties dominate our political process in toto, the US elections process is a total farce.
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Old 04-20-2016, 02:06 PM
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So, if the system is rigged and undemocratic and a farce...... I suppose there is no reason for a person to even cast a vote, eh?

So those of you complaining are going to stay home on Election Day?
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Old 04-20-2016, 02:13 PM
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Yes....
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Old 04-20-2016, 02:22 PM
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And since the two corporate parties dominate our political process in toto, the US elections process is a total farce.
Uh, no. The parties have a vested interest in putting up a candidate who best represents their policy positions and has the best chance of winning the general election. Depending upon the whims of voters who have the time, interest or inclination to vote in primaries or attend caucuses (and who thereby are on the activist fringes of both parties) will not necessarily get the parties to where they want or need to be. Trump and Sanders are both cases in point - they both appeal to the activist fringe of their respective parties, but both have little appeal among independents/moderates who decide elections.
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Old 04-20-2016, 03:23 PM
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If picking the leader of a political party involves voting and that voting process is intentionally undemocratic, then the whole exercise is a sham, a waste of public funds and time.

It is just noise...a feel good noise about US Democracy.
Yup, which is why about half of us don't vote.
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Old 04-20-2016, 03:28 PM
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What a bunch of natering nabobs of negativity....

I look at the revolving door of Italian premierships and governments and thank God are system is not like theirs...
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Old 04-20-2016, 03:32 PM
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I here Italy's a pretty nice place to live. It's definitely a nice place to visit, TDY or otherwise.
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Old 04-20-2016, 03:43 PM
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I here Italy's a pretty nice place to live. It's definitely a nice place to visit, TDY or otherwise.
It is. My daughter loved it there.

I gotta say that I'm more than a little bit alarmed by all the post here that are dismissive and even contemptuous of concerns about the massive voter disenfranchisement we've been experiencing here. Tom Paine called the vote "the beating heart of democracy" and he wasn't wrong.
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Old 04-20-2016, 04:05 PM
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It's election season. People get unreasonable.
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