The Sanders Surge

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Well, I and most folks on here, who are inclined to look under the hood, already knew. But it wasn't from listening to Bernie.
You're making my point though. Why is Trump able to make people listen? Why couldn't Bernie?

I recognise that I'm making one of your points: that the media won't cover Bernit in anything resembling a serious manner. The reason is simplicity itself. He wants to break up the heptocracy of media ownership in the US where a handful of multinational corporations , usually tied into the MIC, control about 90% of or media.

The reason Trump gets the coverage he does is that he has entertainment value. He's a media mogul who's good fro ratings. Plus, he's one of them, a billionaire so nobody expects him to rock the boat. Look at his tax plan for the proof.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I have, It reminded me of Vietnam: "We burned the village in order to save it."

So how do you feel about the Moyers piece?

Got this today.

John -

Remember that Hillary Clinton fundraiser on Friday where a couple could contribute $353,000 to sit at a table with George Clooney? Well, George Clooney himself was asked on NBC whether that was an obscene amount of money, and here’s what he said:

"It is an obscene amount of money, the Sanders campaign when they talk about it is absolutely right. It’s ridiculous that we have this kind of money in politics." - George Clooney

Here’s the truth: you cannot change a corrupt campaign finance system by taking its money. That’s what this election is about: tearing down a system where big money props up the institutions that rig the economy against ordinary Americans. And the central question of our campaign is can 99% of Americans defeat the 1% trying to maintain the status quo? That’s why we have to ask:

Contribute $50 to Bernie’s campaign today to help us win New York and as a way of saying you have had ENOUGH of millionaires and billionaires buying our campaigns and elections.

This is without question that most important week of our campaign. New York votes Tuesday and five states follow one week later. How we step up and respond in this moment could very well mean the difference between victory and defeat for our political revolution.

In solidarity,

Jeff Weaver
Campaign Manager
Bernie 2016"

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Is there evidence of a quid pro quo in that YouTube vid?

It's so obvious you can see it from space.

You just can't handle the truth.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Well, I and most folks on here, who are inclined to look under the hood, already knew. But it wasn't from listening to Bernie.
You're making my point though. Why is Trump able to make people listen? Why couldn't Bernie?

You are giving Trump too much credit. Trump started making noises only after losing Colorado and then Wyoming. Even after losing Colorado, took him a few days to complain IIRC, mostly from selfish motivation. OTOH, Bernie and his supporters have been decrying the Democratic system including demanding the resignation of Debbie WS.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Do you realize that only $2700 goes to the Clinton campaign and the rest goes to electing down ticket candidates?

Sanders Campaign Accuses Clinton and DNC of Violating Campaign Finance Rules

Of course, this is only an lawsuit at this stage.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sande...ry?id=38484074

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Sanders Campaign Accuses Clinton and DNC of Violating Campaign Finance Rules

Of course, this is only an lawsuit at this stage.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sande...ry?id=38484074

Smells like a last ditch desperate attempt at relevance by Weaver.
The Sanders campaign agreed to fundraise for downballot campaigns and they balked. Maybe this is a CYA move.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Smells like a last ditch desperate attempt at relevance by Weaver.
The Sanders campaign agreed to fundraise for downballot campaigns and they balked. Maybe this is a CYA move.

That's nor what this is about. It goes like this. Hillary takes the first $2,700.00 because that's all an individual can contribute. The remaining $350,300 doesn't all go to down ballot races. In fact, only about 1/3 of it does.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watc...s-668466243820

[Rajoo]

The letter said the Hillary Victory Fund reported receiving individual contributions as high at $353,400 or more, "which is over 130 times the $2,700 limit that applies for contributions to Secretary Clinton's campaign."

"Bernie 2016 is particularly concerned that these extremely large-dollar individual contributions have been used by the Hillary Victory Fund to pay for more than $7.8 million in direct mail efforts and over $8.6 million in online advertising, both of which appear to benefit only HFA by generating low dollar contributions that flow only to HFA, rather than to the DNC or any of the participating state party committees," the letter says.

Trump has come up with the moniker 'Crooked Hillary' for her and it fits if the above is true. What this sounds like is that the money raised above the max individual of contribution of $2,700 instead of going to DNC to fund down ballot races exclusively, a large portion is being diverted to support Hillary directly (campaign expenses) and indirectly (funding HFA). As always where there is Hillary there is dishonesty and the name "Crooked Hillary' fits.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...raising-raises

[Rajoo]

Sanders and Kasich Should Ignore Any Pressure to Quit

Mr. Sanders has always stood more for a vision than for reality, especially with a Republican-led Congress. As he and Mrs. Clinton tore into each other in last week’s debate in Brooklyn, some Democrats worried that the nasty fracas would hurt the party. Others want Mr. Sanders to get out and let Mrs. Clinton focus on the Trump threat.

Mr. Sanders has voiced the concerns and energized millions of young people, many of them voting for the first time. His candidacy has forced the party to go deeper on addressing issues like wealth inequality, college tuition costs and the toll of globalization — important points of distinction with Republicans. What’s more, Mr. Sanders’s commitment to small individual contributions has put the lie to Democrats’ excuses that they, too, must play the big money game to win. This is a message too seldom heard in the party that first championed campaign finance reform. That it’s back is long overdue, good for Democrats and good for campaigning. Mrs. Clinton “is clearly irritated by the fact that she has to deal with this guy,” the Democratic strategist David Axelrod said in an interview. “But he’s pushed her on a lot of issues in a positive way, and I think that his young supporters will be bitterly resentful if anyone tries to shove him out of the race.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/op...&nlid=52154604

[Tom Joad]

30,000 in Oakland line up to see Bernie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-Sx6wtFys