The Sanders Surge

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by icenine

You see how Bernie has brought division between us?


I hope I'm not the first one against the wall when the revolution comes....

In my case, my rancor with Hillary are her half truths, apparent lies, and her suckling at the corporate tit. I know where her loyalties will lie once elected, and as with Obama and every republican politician, that will not be for the common man.

As for the democratic party, they sold out every bit as much as the republicans and can no longer be trusted.

[bobabode]

Here's a little info for you Berners in California. If you checked the box American Independent Party (right leaning)? If I'm reading this correctly, you won't be able to vote a Democratic ballot on June 7th. You'll need to re-register as a NPP or a Democrat. (Gasp!Horrors!!!)
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/poli...ty-preference/

Check with your local registrar to verify affiliation.

This ends your friendly public service announcement from a 'rabid' Clintonista pollworker.

[Boreas]

Bernie nor trails Hillary by 6% in Califorornia.

http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Bernie nor trails Hillary by 6% in Celiforornia.

http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/

Unless Hillary has picked Castro by June......

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

Unless Hillary has picked Castro by June......

She tell you that Robbin. You sure do seem to know what Hillery's and Bernie's future plans are. And can you name one time in your life when a major party's candidate named a running mate before the Convention. Hillary is a dead man walking. She's going to lose New York and California. Bill just cost her the black vote yesterday. Women are deserting her. Watch what happens to the Latino vote in New York. Her constituency is the Same now as the Republicans.

[icenine]

Ok John


I was just mentioning some possibilities...he is on the short list.

If I am not mistaken Romney picked Ryan before the Convention in 2012. They did it in front of a Navy vessel to give them some MIC cred. I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not but I take the point if you are suggesting that I have suggested Bernie is a dead man walking.

You may be right...both Hillary and Obama are not very far off from being moderate Republicans. If that is how things have shifted then so be it. That is something beyond my control if people want to nominate people like Trump and Cruz and push moderate GOP voters and values into the Democratic Party.

To be honest, if I was Hillary right now I would pick someone like Castro NOW. She is going to be at the convention, and most likely with a majority count. If she is afraid of losing the nomination or her momentum is going down she needs to amp it up.

Better to pivot to the national now and still have to fight off Bernie than wait too long to pivot after a bloody civil war when she may be really hurt but still the nominee.

[sheltiedave]

Most blacks are nuanced enough that they understood what Bill said. Even in the hood, blacks know who the bangers are, and most wish the gangs would disappear. That, and the drugs.

Like any other group of people, they don't like being preached to, but BILL Clinton and Obama both have garnered the respect that they can walk the street and be respected. Hillary is still a privileged white lady from the Chicago burbs, and everyone knows it. Bill is just as at home eating collards, ribs, and pinto beans as he is eating at a black tie gala.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

Ok John


I was just mentioning some possibilities...he is on the short list.

If I am not mistaken Romney picked Ryan before the Convention in 2012. They did it in front of a Navy vessel to give them some MIC cred. I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not but I take the point if you are suggesting that I have suggested Bernie is a dead man walking.

You may be right...both Hillary and Obama are not very far off from being moderate Republicans. If that is how things have shifted then so be it. That is something beyond my control if people want to nominate people like Trump and Cruz and push moderate GOP voters and values into the Democratic Party.

To be honest, if I was Hillary right now I would pick someone like Castro NOW. She is going to be at the convention, and most likely with a majority count. If she is afraid of losing the nomination or her momentum is going down she needs to amp it up.

Better to pivot to the national now and still have to fight off Bernie than wait too long to pivot after a bloody civil war when she may be really hurt but still the nominee.

Yes, it looks like Romney did choose Ryan early, about two weeks early, after he was the presumptive nominee. If Hillary were to pick a running mate early before locking up the nomination it would blow up in her face and add to the aura of entitledness that haunts her. It would be a huge tactical blunder.

And you know what Truman said about Democrats who try to run to the right: "Given a choice between a fake Republican and a real one, the public will loose the real Republican every time."

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by icenine

You may be right...both Hillary and Obama are not very far off from being moderate Republicans. If that is how things have shifted then so be it.

I guess if what you want is a moderate Republican.

And quite frankly I don't even see her as all that moderate.

I think a case can be made for her being to the right of Eisenhower, and maybe even Nixon. And again, quite frankly, every bit as flawed as Nixon too.

So to me, the obvious choice is Bernie, who stands for the things a real Democrat is supposed to.

[Boreas]

That Field poll that Shows Hillary leading California by 6% is interesting for another reason. Real Clear Politics lists four other Field polls: One from 12/16 - 1/3 showing Hillary up by 11%, another from 9/17 to 10-/4 showing her up by 9%, another from 4/23 to 5/16 showing her up by 40% and the last from 1/26 - 2/15 showing her up by 42%.Dead man walking.