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Old 03-22-2016, 03:50 PM
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That has been my point but it has never even registered with the anti Trump folks here. . The hate is so complete, blind hate they call it I guess, that either you also hate him or you are stupid, ignorant, insane, uneducated....

Now I can understand it to a degree because I felt the same about the lovely Sarah. I felt her an insult and real potential danger. She made up my mind to not vote GOP that year. But Trump is not an idiot like Sarah and the cries that he is crazy is pure hysteria.

Indeed he has caused a divide. This cannot be disputed.
Good thing you aren't blind--or reacting emotionally. Good thing you have such sharp and detailed understanding of the minds of others.
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Old 03-22-2016, 03:54 PM
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If you worked with someone who was a bully and was belligerent and who constantly lied...
this is a false equivalency

It may be your view of the man but it is not mine. All of life is relative and a matter of perspective. There is no universality.
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Old 03-22-2016, 03:56 PM
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this is a false equivalency



It may be your view of the man but it is not mine. All of life is relative and a matter of perspective. There is no universality.

In other words.... You aren't going to answer the question.
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Old 03-22-2016, 03:56 PM
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Good thing you aren't blind--or reacting emotionally. Good thing you have such sharp and detailed understanding of the minds of others.
indeed, these traits have always served me well.
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Old 03-22-2016, 03:58 PM
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In other words.... You aren't going to answer the question.
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in other words, I guess you missed it, it was a bogus question.
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Old 03-22-2016, 04:02 PM
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in other words, I guess you missed it, it was a bogus question.

Wrong again. It was a legitimate question.

There is no doubt he lies.

We can all see for ourselves that he is belligerent and a bully. He has demonstrated those attributes many times over.

Seems to me you are the blind one here if you can't admit to those truths.

Avoiding the answer does not change the truth.
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Old 03-22-2016, 04:10 PM
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Wrong again. It was a legitimate question.

There is no doubt he lies.

We can all see for ourselves that he is belligerent and a bully. He has demonstrated those attributes many times over.

Seems to me you are the blind one here if you can't admit to those truths.

Avoiding the answer does not change the truth.
maybe read my posts, I said he was a liar, I acknowledge he is a master of verbal combat which is your claim of "bullying" and your question is still a false equivalency and no such questions should ever be answered in debate.

I am not quite sure how "winning" his verbal battles makes him a bully. Is that not what politics has always been.

What he has said that you find so distasteful has been less extreme than the campaign utterances of our early candidates/presidents.

Trump is not reinventing the world.... with the devil, as you seem to think.
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Old 03-22-2016, 04:25 PM
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maybe read my posts, I said he was a liar, I acknowledge he is a master of verbal combat which is your claim of "bullying" and your question is still a false equivalency and no such questions should ever be answered in debate.



I am not quite sure how "winning" his verbal battles makes him a bully. Is that not what politics has always been.



What he has said that you find so distasteful has been less extreme than the campaign utterances of our early candidates/presidents.



Trump is not reinventing the world.... with the devil, as you seem to think.



You are off base again.
Quit trying to tell me what I think or how I arrive at my conclusions. You just don't want to answer my original question.

The fact is...he is a bully by every definition and this is evident by his own behavior. That you refuse to admit the obvious is simply a reflection of your own blind spot.

I know all about negotiating and it does not involve being a bully.

I know all about verbal battles and it does not involve bullying.

I'm not so sure he actually 'wins' those verbal battles as they expose his lies and bullying. In fact.... Those are behaviors of his that I learned from watching him debate.


I'm not comparing him to other candidates. They all have issues.... Some I can tolerate better than others.
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Old 03-22-2016, 05:09 PM
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Well said, Barbara. I'm afraid you talking to a guy who's too 'invested' in Trump at this point to admit it, though.
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Old 03-22-2016, 05:13 PM
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