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View Poll Results: Do you own firearms?
No, and don't plan to 5 29.41%
No, but I'm considering it 1 5.88%
Yes, I own firearms, less than 10 8 47.06%
Yes, I could nearly start my own army 3 17.65%
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:09 AM
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Typically, revolvers DON'T have safeties-You pick one up, it's ready for business. That's why you should ALWAYS check any gun to see if it's loaded-they ALWAYS are until YOU have proven to yrself otherwise...
And then you handle it like it was.
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:35 AM
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Absolutely. I HAVE had a couple of "ADs" over the years, luckily, they were just VERY embarrassing.
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:30 AM
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Shows you how much I remember about guns, last time I fired one was nearly 60 years ago. So, what is the difference between an automatic with a round chambered with the safety on and a revolver with the safety on. Take the safety off and won't both be capable of firing?

BTW we definitely plan on some firing range time should we go this route.
Most modern revolvers are safe with all cylinders loaded, they incorporate some type of firing pin disconnector. The old style revolvers had a fixed firing pin on the hammer, which rested on the primer of the cartridge, if you drop one of those and the hammer hits the ground, it will fire. The newer ones will not fire unless the trigger is pulled to the rear.

With a SA revolver, you need to cock the hammer and then pull the trigger. A DA revolver can be fired in this manner, or by simply pulling the trigger, which cocks and fires it. A DAO is one which can be fired by pulling the trigger only, you can not manually cock it first.

There are a lot of automatics which are safe to carry with a round in the chamber, like a DA Browning High Power, or a DAO Glock. I was talking about .22 automatics, like my Browning Buckmark. It has an internal firing pin, when you chamber a round, it is cocked. And the only means to uncock it is to fire it. So you have to set the safety or carry it without a round in the chamber. My Buckmark has a very light trigger pull, and I think the safety blocks the trigger, which means if it were dropped, there is a chance that the hammer will slip off of the sear and fire. That's why it makes me nervous. And I think most .22 autos are like it.

If it had a hammer block safety, like a Mauser 98, which locks the firing pin, I would be more comfortable with it.

Things get even more involved than this, depending on which firearm you are using. That's why I like the DA revolver, simple to use, and very dependable.

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Old 07-25-2009, 11:37 AM
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Another thing about shooting that is almost never mentioned is that some of us love to do it...I was as athletic as yr basic dishrag growing up, had a defect that kept me from being able to run very fast, was uncoordinated as hell, & just generally had zero interest in sports...But I could shoot pretty good, & I enjoyed the hell outta that...Plus,men & women, boys & girls are all more or less evenly matched when it comes to shooting, its something the whole kit 'n' kaboodle can enjoy doing together....And at 52, I can still shoot about as good as I did when I was 32...I never got into competitive shooting, but I was good enuff to satisfy ME...And that's what counts.
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:11 PM
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Another thing about shooting that is almost never mentioned is that some of us love to do it...I was as athletic as yr basic dishrag growing up, had a defect that kept me from being able to run very fast, was uncoordinated as hell, & just generally had zero interest in sports...But I could shoot pretty good, & I enjoyed the hell outta that...Plus,men & women, boys & girls are all more or less evenly matched when it comes to shooting, its something the whole kit 'n' kaboodle can enjoy doing together....And at 52, I can still shoot about as good as I did when I was 32...I never got into competitive shooting, but I was good enuff to satisfy ME...And that's what counts.
Just came back from visiting my old buddy, Deputy Dawg. Drank a couple of cold ones, cooked some steaks, and tugged a few triggers...not necessarily in that order.

9MM day. He produced his Berretta 92, a Kel-Tec, and I supplied my crummy P9R.

Hate to say it, but his Beretta was chocking on his reloads, my P9R ate 'em up, along with all kinds of slop...even Wolf steel cased ball. Kel-Tec goes bang every time, too.

Then he brought out his Rock Island Tactical .45, which has felt the touch of a hone. Pulled my 1st shot, wasn't ready for a slick trigger after shooting them wonder nines, after that couldn't miss.

For an inexpensive .45 auto, those RIA's are pretty nice.

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Old 07-25-2009, 09:24 PM
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I've got a S&W Model 41 that I can chase a tin can all over a field with...Much fun. And a S&W Model 52 that I can about do the same with. I'd HIGHLY recommend to anyone to grab either one of those guns if they ever have the opportunity to do so-They are simply marvelous. I have a Colt Gold Cup National Match Stainless that's never had a thing done to it, but I'm not as good w/it as I am w/the 52. A 45 just doesn't "work" for me quite as well as other guns do...And its the caliber, I have a Colt Service Model ACE that shoots just dandily...
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:27 PM
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The NRA is all about money and power and I certainly don't need their unregulated lobby to keep and bear arms.
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:45 PM
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The NRA is all about money and power and I certainly don't need their unregulated lobby to keep and bear arms.
Preconceived notion.

I can only assume that your are NOT a member of the NRA. About all the NRA does is to allow you to keep and bear arms LEGALLY.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...the NRA is your friend.

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Old 07-25-2009, 09:55 PM
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I've got a S&W Model 41 that I can chase a tin can all over a field with...Much fun. And a S&W Model 52 that I can about do the same with. I'd HIGHLY recommend to anyone to grab either one of those guns if they ever have the opportunity to do so-They are simply marvelous. I have a Colt Gold Cup National Match Stainless that's never had a thing done to it, but I'm not as good w/it as I am w/the 52. A 45 just doesn't "work" for me quite as well as other guns do...And its the caliber, I have a Colt Service Model ACE that shoots just dandily...
Damn, Sandy, we're just a couple of poor boys down here in Dogpatch.

Them's some high dollar shootin' irons you're talkin' about.

No doubt that you're a very particular collector. Got a drilling? And don't tell me it's a cased Sauer with Nazi proofmarks.

I'll cry,

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Old 07-25-2009, 10:08 PM
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No, but I DO have a High Power w/Wermacht proof marks...An' a 1914 DWM P.08 that shoots very well...Plus the 41 rimfire Colt Derringer my grandad shot a bad guy with...
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