Social Security

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by nailer

Indeed they would.

Now I see why you ride pithy statements.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Now I see why you ride pithy statements.

Are you having trouble with that lisp again?

[Pio1980]

Mebbe just pithed off.

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[noonereal]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Yep. Americans should be taught how the retirement system works when they are in high school. .

the simplicity is brilliance.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Precisely.

Yes the assumption that everybody is responsible and smart enough to prepare for old age on their own

it's more than that

we have studied and trained entities, like banks and retailers targeting our psyche daily to part us with any money we may intend to save.

Think about it, it's just not that hard to create a desire in people, place a "want" in them through manipulation.

Trust me, anyone can be "sold."

It's an immoral template. At least a philosophical case could be made.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Boreas

As I said before, it was revolutionary. Part of your problem seems to be a failure to view the New Deal in context. Nothing like it had ever been done before or even tried and the results were spectacularly successful.

Is someone really arguing that the New Deal was not a rousing success?

That is just insane.

[MrPots]

And we have wall street traders working day and night to part us from our investments.

For instance, how they managed to "earn" 25 billion in bonuses last year when my managed Roth IRA barely nudged.

The we have the republican party working day and night to ensure working man wages never go up while medical and education costs beat inflation by double digits.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by nailer

Now we're looking at paying the price of the New Deal not being a good deal unless something revolutionary occurs soon.

WTF?

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Evolutionary, not revolutionary. It's need for periodic updating or tweaking is no reason to denigrate Social Security. No program can be expected to exist in its original form over a long period of time. Social Security is over 80 years old.

Social Security is not broken, it was victimized. In spite of that, it's easily fixed. Simply remove the cap on what is taxable and add a means test. No retirement age change is needed. Yes, it's this simple.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by noonereal

it's more than that

we have studied and trained entities, like banks and retailers targeting our psyche daily to part us with any money we may intend to save.

Think about it, it's just not that hard to create a desire in people, place a "want" in them through manipulation.

Trust me, anyone can be "sold."

It's an immoral template. At least a philosophical case could be made.

Damn right it is. And the telescreens have been teaching that morality to every child in this country for upwards of 60 years now.