Obama in Cuba

[whell]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

For that reason he was hunted down and murdered by the US government.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/2/7...he_how_the_cia

This is really funny. Sad that folks like you believe this stuff, but funny. You should send this to Oliver Stone. Might give him an idea for his next "history movie".

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

This is really funny. Sad that folks like you believe this stuff, but funny. You should send this to Oliver Stone. Might give him an idea for his next "history movie".

We already know that the CIA was operating with the Bolivian Army Rangers who were hunting Guevara. We've also known that Guevara was executed after capture. Whether a CIA operative or a Bolivian Ranger pulled the trigger is pretty meaningless.

This sort of shit went on all the time in the '60s, '70s and '80s. Remember Salvador Allende? Omar Torijos? Ngo Dinh Diem?

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I don't know how it is now, but when I went to the University of Florida in the late 60's the Cuban immigrants were getting to go there free. And I'm not talking just free tuition. They were also getting a generous living allowance that covered everything from beer to books. I know of one Cuban girl that was going there like that and do you know what her major was? Fucking Spanish that's what. Talk about a gimmee program!

Another favored group were Soviet Jews. Americans Jews who had agitated for them to come to America later viewed them negatively after noticing their abuse of the very generous system of assistance.

There was a strong suspicion that many were not even Jews, but were people who had bribed their way into Jewry to get refugee status. There was also a strong gangsta undertone.

Polish illegals became angry as they watched the Soviet Jews given the"red carpet". In Brooklyn the Poles had to stand on the corner with the Central Americans to hustle a day job.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

So, tell it to Obama. He likes to go to Saudi Arabia and bow to the "royals" there.

The question is legit, by the way. I just suspect you don't like the answer.

Hey, how about them Spartans.

Regards,

D-Ray

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

We already know that the CIA was operating with the Bolivian Army Rangers who were hunting Guevara. We've also known that Guevara was executed after capture. Whether a CIA operative or a Bolivian Ranger pulled the trigger is pretty meaningless.

its meaningless if you're assuming that the CIA lead the effort in Bolivia to track down and kill Guevara. I don't think that's a conclusion that can be drawn, though it's a picture that some like to paint to reinforce the marketing effort behind Guevara.

So, if that's what you think, maybe Obama's photo op can be interpreted as kind of like "spiking the football"?

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Hey, how about them Spartans.

Regards,

D-Ray

Now you're just bein' mean!

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

its meaningless if you're assuming that the CIA lead the effort in Bolivia to track down and kill Guevara. I don't think that's a conclusion that can be drawn, though it's a picture that some like to paint to reinforce the marketing effort behind Guevara.

So, if that's what you think, maybe Obama's photo op can be interpreted as kind of like "spiking the football"?

Yeah, well, I never said that, did I?

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yeah, well, I never said that, did I?

Your statement certainly drew a moral equivalence. So no, you didn't say it. You walked up to it, danced with it, bought it a drink at the bar, offered to make love to it, but you didn't say it.

[HarmanKardon]

No meeting with good old Fidel? Good decision, I think that would be a little bit too much...

[whell]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

No meeting with good old Fidel? Good decision, I think that would be a little bit too much...

For all we know, such a meeting might have had to happen in a hospital room. Not, I suspect, how the leader of the struggle wants to be pictured.