Trumps is in! - Page 226

djv8ga · #**2251** 03-16-2016, 01:01 PM

"Trump and Cruz are betting that their dual dominance in the delegate hunt will permanently box out the Ohio governor, who has no mathematical path to the nomination and is openly pursuing a floor fight at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland. And their aides say Kasich won't even make it to the floor."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...vention-220846

Ike Bana · #**2252** 03-16-2016, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga

"Trump and Cruz are betting that their dual dominance in the delegate hunt will permanently box out the Ohio governor, who has no mathematical path to the nomination and is openly pursuing a floor fight at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland. And their aides say Kasich won't even make it to the floor."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...vention-220846

Doesn't the RNC have guidelines for who can be nominated? I believe you have to win a minimum of 8 primaries/caucuses to be elegible. Trump is already there and Cruz will more than likely be there by convention time. No way Kasich is going to rack up 8 states by then. Unless there's a revolution and the rules get changed. Is the GOP fucked up enough to let that play out? Perhaps.

Boreas · #**2253** 03-16-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal

LOL... it's all I can say

not trying to be dismissive but I just don't read it like so many in a panic about TRump do...

Yes, you are.

Here are his words. (Bold is my edit, of course.)

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'I don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically,' Trump said on CNN's 'New Day' program, forecasting a situation where he arrives at the Cleveland, Ohio convention in July with fewer than a majority of delegates and GOP rules throw open the contest to other candidates.

'I think you'd have riots. I think you'd have riots. I'm representing many, many millions of people, in many cases first-time voters ... If you disenfranchise those people? And you say, well, I'm sorry, you're 100 votes short, even though the next one is 500 votes short?' he asked.

'I think you'd have problems like you've never seen before. I wouldn't lead it, but I think bad things will happen.'

So, this is the scenario he's describing.

1. Trump arrives at the convention without enough delegates to win on the first ballot.

2. For the second ballot, not enough of the opposing candidates switch to Trump to give him a majority.

3. The "anti-Trump" delegates coalesce around a single delegate other than Trump, thereby giving the majority and the nomination to that candidate.

4. Trump repeats the claim that this process has "disenfranchised" his "fans".

5. Trump "fans" riot, beginning at the Convention and spreading across the country. Democratic and Republican rallies are invaded by Trump "fans", some probably armed. People are killed. Mosques are burned. Mexicans, Muslims, Sikhs and anyone who looks "suspicious" is assaulted by groups of Trump thugs. More people are killed.

6. Trump says that all this is regrettable but, after all, his "fans" are passionate people and, though he deplores violence, they have a legitimate grievance.

finnbow · #**2254** 03-16-2016, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Yes, you are.

Here are his words. (Bold is my edit, of course.)

So, this is the scenario he's describing.

1. Trump arrives at the convention without enough delegates to win on the first ballot.

2. For the second ballot, not enough of the opposing candidates switch to Trump to give him a majority.

3. The "anti-Trump" delegates coalesce around a single delegate other than Trump, thereby giving the majority and the nomination to that candidate.

4. Trump repeats the claim that this process has "disenfranchised" his "fans".

5. Trump "fans" riot, beginning at the Convention and spreading across the country. Democratic and Republican rallies are invaded by Trump "fans", some probably armed. People are killed. Mosques are burned. Mexicans, Muslims, Sikhs and anyone who looks "suspicious" is assaulted by groups of Trump thugs. More people are killed.

6. Trump says that all this is regrettable but, after all, his "fans" are passionate people and, though he deplores violence, they have a legitimate grievance.

Agreed, but I think #5 may be a bit overblown (i.e., the violence may be limited to Cleveland). In any event, the GOP will go down in flames. Literally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ed-at-the-gop/

djv8ga · #**2255** 03-16-2016, 02:00 PM

#5 is downright paranoia.

finnbow · #**2256** 03-16-2016, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga

#5 is downright paranoia.

So, do you think that Trump's supporters would simply roll over if Romney or Ryan were plugged in as nominee? Trump has pretty much threatened a riot if he doesn't get the nomination. There are a lot of armed rubes willing to follow Hauptsturmführer Drumpf's lead.

Boreas · #**2257** 03-16-2016, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

Agreed, but I think #5 may be a bit overblown (i.e., the violence may be limited to Cleveland). In any event, the GOP will go down in flames. Literally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ed-at-the-gop/

I hope your right but I think, with regard to the former, I'm closer to the mark. These people are fucking nuts and they're already insanely angry. If Trump isn't the nominee, they're going to get scary ugly.

By the way, I think the same thing will happen if Trump gets the nomination and loses the general. The Trumpists will believe that the only possible explanation is that the election was stolen and then all Hell will break loose.

icenine · #**2258** 03-16-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal

Trump told Fox he is not doing their debate Monday.... Fox canceled the debate.

Who knew politics would be so much fun one day!

Sorry, sorry, I know this stuff is not supposed to be fun.

Trump is pulling a Limbaugh because he knows the other candidates are going to tear into him as unlike before. He is running away from them with his tail between his legs.

Prediction: Trump will refuse to debate Hillary because he won't be able to control the opposition. Although if I am Hillary I might refuse to share the debate stage with a xenophobic bigot...that might do enough to crush Trump in the general. Trump should be fought with the metaphor of fire with fire: use delegitimisation against Trump to tear him apart.

Dondilion · #**2259** 03-16-2016, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine

Trump is pulling a Limbaugh because he knows the other candidates are going to tear into him as unlike before. He is running away from them with his tail between his legs.

Prediction: Trump will refuse to debate Hillary because he won't be able to control the opposition. Although if I am Hillary I might refuse to share the debate stage with a xenophobic bigot...that might do enough to crush Trump in the general. Trump should be fought with the metaphor of fire with fire: use delegitimisation against Trump to tear him apart.

Can you expand...delegitimization

MrPots · #**2260** 03-16-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine

Trump is pulling a Limbaugh because he knows the other candidates are going to tear into him as unlike before. He is running away from them with his tail between his legs.

Prediction: Trump will refuse to debate Hillary because he won't be able to control the opposition. Although if I am Hillary I might refuse to share the debate stage with a xenophobic bigot...that might do enough to crush Trump in the general. Trump should be fought with the metaphor of fire with fire: use delegitimisation against Trump to tear him apart.

Intriguing thought.