Trumps is in!

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

His hyperbolic bombast has never gone down with a number of folk, including me. I hated him on sight with the promos for his shitty "reality"show, which I refused to watch, regarding it as a fluffed up version of Flavor Flave's pathetically trashy shit show. If anyone deserves the orange fist award for obxoxiousness, it's this self absorbed pompous ass of an attention whore.

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Try purple.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Polls done of yesterday's voters indicate that 1/3 of GOP will not vote for Trump under any conditions.

They'll come around.

The hate they have for Hillary will eclipse any reservations they have about Trump.

The ones you need to worry about not coming around are the Bernie Bros, cuz we hate dat bitch too!

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by noonereal

I disagree.

Most America's hold their nose and vote. Yes his are a bit higher but he has not made his "turn" yet.

It's the GOP that has the energy, it is the GOP that has voters swelling the primaries. Dem voters are down. Hillary has very high negatives too.

I'll likely hold my noise and vote for Hillary. See how that works?

I see Hillary very negatively.

Here's an interesting essay from Gallup on Trump's favorability rating in the polls. The thing that stands out to me, in comparing Trump to Hillary, is that Hillary has much broader favorability than Trump, to balance against the high unfavorability. So if you take the unfavorable (negative) and favorable (positive) together, you wind up (at that time, end of January) with -10 for Hillary, and -27 for Trump. Very significant difference, Trump almost 3 times worse.

Then there's the fact that 1/3 of 'GOP voters' say they will not vote for trump under any conditions. Some may back down from that, hold their nose very tightly, and vote for him after all. Conversely, that group will be balanced by some who hate and fear Trump enough to actually vote for the Democrat. But my guess is the majority will stay home, cancelling the advantage of the Trump supporter's high enthusiasm. Losing 1/3 of the GOP base seems like death at the polls for a Republican candidate to me.

Unless one has a plan to really change the game....

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Your comments about a supposed 'brain trust' around here that supposedly called you 'stupid' suggest a tinge of the sensitivities and resentments seen in many of Trump's followers. .[/URL]

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as seen in all humans in fact

I can pretty much guarantee few are as impervious to personal attack and name calling as I. Am I bullet proof, of course not.

One thing, I never hold a grudge. It's weird, it's like I am not capable. My youngest is the same. I have come to the conclusion that it is a weakness however because of perceptions.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

They'll come around.

The hate they have for Hillary will eclipse any reservations they have about Trump.

Bingo! Haters hate.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Here's an interesting essay from Gallup on Trump's favorability rating in the polls. The thing that stands out to me, in comparing Trump to Hillary, is that Hillary has much broader favorability than Trump, to balance against the high unfavorability. So if you take the unfavorable (negative) and favorable (positive) together, you wind up (at that time, end of January) with -10 for Hillary, and -27 for Trump. Very significant difference, Trump almost 3 times worse.

Then there's the fact that 1/3 of 'GOP voters' say they will not vote for trump under any conditions. Some may back down from that, hold their nose very tightly, and vote for him after all. Conversely, that group will be balanced by some who hate and fear Trump enough to actually vote for the Democrat. But my guess is the majority will stay home, cancelling the advantage of the Trump supporter's high enthusiasm. Losing 1/3 of the GOP base seems like death at the polls for a Republican candidate to me.

Unless one has a plan to really change the game....

You and Fin may be right but I'd be fine betting against you... with the odds of course.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by noonereal

I never read op-ed's. I am at no loss to form my own opinion.

I understand why they are written, for the ego of the writer. Why they are read? Beats me.

(noone ducks for cover, again)

They are written, first of all, so the writer can earn a living. But if one gains a following (of people agreeable to your customary positions) one gains some influence. People come to rely on you for cues as to what 'people like us' are supposed to think. The phrase 'opinion leader' has meaning.

Quality-wise, they vary all over the map. Some argue with considerable substance and fairness. Others are print demagogues. There is stuff to learn from the best ones. I wholly agree with skipping the rest.

(There, was that so bad? You don't always have to duck....)

[bobabode]

'Jerry Brown: If Trump Wins, We’ll Build A Wall Around California'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...all-california

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by bobabode

'Jerry Brown: If Trump Wins, We’ll Build A Wall Around California'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...all-california

lol

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by noonereal

as seen in all humans in fact

I can pretty much guarantee few are as impervious to personal attack and name calling as I. Am I bullet proof, of course not.

One thing, I never hold a grudge. It's weird, it's like I am not capable. My youngest is the same. I have come to the conclusion that it is a weakness however because of perceptions.

We're very alike about grudges....