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Old 03-14-2016, 09:01 AM
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This reminds me of the slogan "Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"

So the level of Trump's sort of Goebbels agitation will for sure get more and more evil in the next months.

This is a very serious thing.
Yes, it is, Chris and I fear a Trump loss almost as much as a Trump victory. The Republicans have been lying to their base for years and years about "massive Democratic voter fraud". To his supporters, a Trump loss will be viewed as proof of fraud by the Democrats.

It would seem that Trump supporters are our bad luck.
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:08 AM
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I meant it was wrought of unreasoned emotion. Stepped in fear. A wholly unacceptable conclusion given the evidence at hand.
Reasoning:

1. Trump really wants to be President.
2. With his very high negatives, among educated whites and just about all non-whites, he is extremely unlikely to win a general election under normal conditions.
3. This might change if political violence increased rage and fear throughout the populace to new heights, while intimidating his opposition.
4. His actions show a gradual pattern of moves toward such conditions.

We might discuss any of these points you feel are supported too much by 'unreasoned emotion.'
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:11 AM
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seems the guy thinks Trump supports violent white supremely.

yep, John is right, Trump is a Rorschach test.
Just a blot.

On the other hand, it's very easy to see his supporters for what they are.
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:14 AM
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Reasoning:

1. Trump really wants to be President.
2. With his very high negatives, among educated whites and just about all non-whites, he is extremely unlikely to win a general election under normal conditions.
3. This might change if political violence increased rage and fear throughout the populace to new heights, while intimidating his opposition.
4. His actions show a gradual pattern of moves toward such conditions.

We might discuss any of these points you feel are supported too much by 'unreasoned emotion.'
Isn't this how Hitler gained power?
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:18 AM
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Isn't this how Hitler gained power?
Yes. Without the Nazis ever getting a majority in a contested, fair election.

(I usually leave this conclusion as an exercise for the reader. Direct comparisons to Hitler arouse resistance in many people's minds. Sounds like 'unreasoned emotion' to them.)
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:26 AM
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Yes. Without the Nazis ever getting a majority in a contested, fair election.

(I usually leave this conclusion as an exercise for the reader. Direct comparisons to Hitler arouse resistance in many people's minds. Sounds like 'unreasoned emotion' to them.)
I've actually studied Hitlers rise to power and the parallels are becoming pretty stark.
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:36 AM
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Just a blot.

On the other hand, it's very easy to see his supporters for what they are.
everyone is the same are they John?

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Old 03-14-2016, 09:39 AM
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yeah, these dolls are far superior to Trump dolts.

Maybe they have an extra sign for you guys?

Come on guys, there is good, bad, educated, stupid blah blah blah on the side of every candidate. All candidates are an ink blot to some degree.
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:41 AM
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I've actually studied Hitlers rise to power and the parallels are becoming pretty stark.
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:45 AM
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everyone is the same are they John?

Did I say that?
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