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03-13-2016, 11:55 AM
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How many lives did he cost buying Bin Laden('s hatred)?
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03-13-2016, 11:56 AM
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Reagan is beyond our nation. Reagan is world wide.
Admit it!... The Democrats/Liberals/Progressives underestimated the guy.
The "idiot" communicated his ideas on governance, economic and social theory with avuncular ease and significant portion of the electoral listened and acted on it.
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I lived overseas (in Germany) for most of Reagan's Presidency and, being a German speaker, got really tired of defending his idiocy to nearly everybody I met who realized I was American. Similarly, I was overseas a lot during Dubya's Presidency and got real tired of defending that moron too.
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03-13-2016, 12:25 PM
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So, Buckley and Reagan discuss ways to restrict the movement of citizens from one state to another, based on the premise that it's the uniformity of "welfare" regulation that draws them to more temperate climates. Then, they claim uniformity of unemployment and labor regulation nationwide, restricts the ability of businesses to move from one state to another seeking "more favorable conditions"? Face it, they're talking about cheaper, more compliant labor markets and more stringent requirements on the social safety net.
And, all of this in 1967.
The wild card in this economic theory is globalization. Competition between Michigan and Ohio or Ohio and Georgia is one thing. At what point is a government obliged to protect industry and workers from competition they cannot possibly compete with domestically, without subjecting ones own workers to unacceptable conditions found in such a place as Communist China?
Sorry, but I still believe minimum standards are not only good, but necessary for humane reasons. Unchecked competition between states and foreign nations is not "all good". The problems a state such as yours has, Mikey, are double edged sword. Perhaps wages and the safety net there became too expensive at some point, but it can also be said that costs are too low elsewhere. Ultimately a government is judged by how it treats it's people. Are we human beings or chattel to be abandoned for the most "favorable" (Read; "profitable",) conditions?
No thanks, Ronnie. Stay in your grave, please.
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03-13-2016, 12:34 PM
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Also, bear in mind that as businesses abandon a state or the country entirely, social safety net costs rise concurrent to the loss of revenue generation.
Reagans model encourages businesses to seek the lowest cost conditions, the path of least resistance, without any social conscience. I think anyone living in the Rust Belt should be able to take a look around them and see exactly what this yields. Unless, of course, they have been conditioned to think that MORE of this is what's needed..........
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03-13-2016, 12:57 PM
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Yeah,who can forget "Trickle down economics",raining piss down on the middle class.
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03-13-2016, 01:35 PM
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He was a big con artist and now 'The Party of Reagan" has given us Trump and the GOP hates him. Trump is a better con artist and why hate him for carrying on the Reagan tradition?
Who can ever forget these memorable words of wisdom from Reagan.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...nFyNGur7pPFCAA
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03-13-2016, 01:48 PM
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Ah, the open-mindedness just abounds with the members of this forum.
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Thanks for the first chuckle of the day, my blinkered friend
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03-13-2016, 02:02 PM
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Bill Fuckley, the epitome of Fair and Balanced. Did they get a room after that interview?
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I particularly liked the way he fed "pre-answered" questions to Reagan.
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03-13-2016, 02:04 PM
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Ah, the open-mindedness just abounds with the members of this forum.
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Open-mindedness isn't synonymous with gullibility.
"Trust but verify."
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03-13-2016, 02:07 PM
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I lived overseas (in Germany) for most of Reagan's Presidency and, being a German speaker, got really tired of defending his idiocy to nearly everybody I met who realized I was American. Similarly, I was overseas a lot during Dubya's Presidency and got real tired of defending that moron too.
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So, after Trump is elected, are you planning to tell Europeans that you're Australian or Canadian?
Serious question.
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