The OFFICIAL Hillary Death Spiral Thread!

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Dude, your gal is dishonest. She's playing into nobody else's hand.

Dude, she's not my gal.

Read the editorial.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Dude, she's not my gal.

Read the editorial.

Oops, my bad. I thought I was responding to Bobabode. My apologies for accusing you of being a Hillary fanboy, though blaming her entourage for her lousy candidacy does make it appear so.

FWIW, I read the editorial. Nobody is forcing her to parse Bernie's Senate record to find silly little gotcha's. Believe it or not, I can stomach Hillary somewhat better than any of my Democratic friends. I don't know a single person who actually likes her and that's here in Montgomery County, MD, a rock-solid Democratic bastion. She has about as much appeal as a bad case of poison ivy.

[Boreas]

I don't like her but she doesn't scare me. Trump and Cruz scare me.

Look, there's little doubt at this point that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee. That means that she'll need Bernie's supporters to vote for her in the general. Without them she loses and we get Herr Drumpf for president. Without them our success down-ticket will be severely damaged as well.

There's already a huge dirty tricks campaign in operation to convince Bernie supporters to stay home if he's not the nominee. Every time Hillary tries to mislead voters about Bernie's record by parsing, cherry-picking and outright lies, it makes the "stay home" easier to sell.

I'll grant you that Hillary's inclinations may make her susceptible to the strategy recommendations of her chief advisers and I'll even admit that her selection of them is something which doesn't speak well of her but Hillary is looking like the only thing between us and a Drumpf 1,000 Jahr Reich. She needs to stop hurting herself among the people she'll need in November.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

FWIW, I read the editorial. Nobody is forcing her to parse Bernie's Senate record to find silly little gotcha's. Believe it or not, I can stomach Hillary somewhat better than any of my Democratic friends. I don't know a single person who actually likes her and that's here in Montgomery County, MD, a rock-solid Democratic bastion. She has about as much appeal as a bad case of poison ivy.

At this rate Hillary is following in Trump's footsteps, only supported by her base, otherwise shunned by the rest of the Democratic electorate. And these two are are to be our eventual nominees? Interesting both are creations of their respective parties, using totally opposite methods for their selection.

What a mess and wonder what the turnout will be for the general election would be.

[icenine]

Hillary will beat Trump easily. Please join me in my pro-Hillary thread next Wednesday morning after my home state and Florida anoint her as the next Democratic nominee.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I don't like her but she doesn't scare me. Trump and Cruz scare me...

Cruz is a lot scarier than Trump.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by icenine

Hillary will beat Trump easily. Please join me in my pro-Hillary thread next Wednesday morning after my home state and Florida anoint her as the next Democratic nominee.

I must have missed yesterday's anointment somehow.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by nailer

Cruz is a lot scarier than Trump.

Very true. God's anointed King On Earth is much scarier but less likely to be the Republican nominee.

[Mr. Lin]

Originally Posted by Boreas

There's already a huge dirty tricks campaign in operation to convince Bernie supporters to stay home if he's not the nominee. Every time Hillary tries to mislead voters about Bernie's record by parsing, cherry-picking and outright lies, it makes the "stay home" easier to sell.

Do you have actual evidence of that or is it just a hunch? Now, I plan to force myself to vote for her, but there's a current shaming campaign that's really been pissing me off, because I think it's ridiculous to tell people the Trump presidency is going to be the Sanders-supporters' faults because they wouldn't vote for the crappy candidate the Democratic party has decided to stand behind. I hope my fellow Sanders fans won't largely sit this one out, but I really can't blame them if they do, and I feel the blame lies squarely on Hillary herself and the Democratic Party if she loses. Our bullshit meters go into the red with her, and no, sorry, but that has zero to do with the nonsense the Republicans spew about Clinton, many of us have come to our own conclusions.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Mr. Lin

Do you have actual evidence of that or is it just a hunch? Now, I plan to force myself to vote for her, but there's a current shaming campaign that's really been pissing me off, because I think it's ridiculous to tell people the Trump presidency is going to be the Sanders-supporters' faults because they wouldn't vote for the crappy candidate the Democratic party has decided to stand behind. I hope my fellow Sanders fans won't largely sit this one out, but I really can't blame them if they do, and I feel the blame lies squarely on Hillary herself and the Democratic Party if she loses. Our bullshit meters go into the red with her, and no, sorry, but that has zero to do with the nonsense the Republicans spew about Clinton, many of us have come to our own conclusions.

Dirty tricks is my characterization but the campaign exists: call after call to talk radio, posts on social media, pledges promising to stay home, etc.

Face facts here. If Hillary is the nominee and, as a result, a sizable portion of Bernie's supporters stay home or write Bernie in (another current campaign), that would very likely give Trump enough of an edge to win. Is your "principled stand" against Hillary worth enduring a Trump presidency?