Trumps is in! - Page 185

donquixote99 · #**1841** 02-28-2016, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer

Bloomberg is an independent.

Or is he?????

nailer · #**1842** 02-28-2016, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Actually, this forum, though mostly left leaning isn't a "Democrat forum" and, except for Bob, there aren't any hardcore Dems at all. In fact, I'm willing to bet that a lot of the people you think are dyed in the wool Democrats are independents whose last party affiliation was Republican. Some may even still be Republicans but are fed up with the mindless hate and selfishness that has infected the party.

Personally, I'm considerably farther left than the Democrats. I'm a registered Democrat because, until recently, California was a closed primary state. You had to be registered in the party whose primary you wanted to vote in and I sure as shit wasn't going to vote for the asshole Republicans they have out here or for any Republican presidential candidate that's come along since I was of voting age.

And Sanders is something other than a "lib". He's a Democratic So************************t, something most liberals are a bit uncomfortable with. If you want to stick an American label on Bernie, I suppose he's a "New Dealer". What he really wants to do is repair the damage that Republicans have done to FDR's programs and then continue making social progress. For me, that would be a good start.

And now for the Libertarians. They're just a bunch of freeloading candyasses who want to have access to everything the government provides like roads or the National Weather Service (to tell them to come in out of the rain) or an army to keep them safe from all those scary brown people but they don't want to pay for any of this and they don't want to be responsible members of a society where what I do affects you and what you do affects me. Really, Libertarians are just spoiled children in more or less grown up bodies.

You're so far left that your right, but not as often as you think.

You nailed the Libertarians. First time I met any was moving here 36 years ago and freeloaders was the one word description that immediately came to mind.

merrylander · #**1843** 02-28-2016, 09:40 AM

Couple of things I can recommend y'all read; Dana Millbank and Robert Kagan in today's WaPo.Oh also John Donne's 'No Man is an Island'. on a personal level I do find some comfort in his 'Death be not Proud.'

nailer · #**1844** 02-28-2016, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99

Or is he?????

Is anyone?

Boreas · #**1845** 02-28-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer

Bloomberg is an independent.

After trying all the others.

He was always a Democrat but became a Republican to run for Mayor of New York. Now he's an Independent because he had to switch parties to run for a third term while lobbying the City Council to amend their term limit restrictions to three terms.

So, yes, an Independent and has expressed an interest in running for president as such. What's your point?

nailer · #**1846** 02-28-2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

After trying all the others.

He was always a Democrat but became a Republican to run for Mayor of New York. Now he's an Independent because he had to switch parties to run for a third term while lobbying the City Council to amend their term limit restrictions to three terms.

So, yes, an Independent and has expressed an interest in running for president as such. What's your point?

Already made it.

What's yours?

donquixote99 · #**1847** 02-28-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer

Is anyone?

If he doesn't see that his candidacy will split the anti-Trump vote and thus elect Trump, he's an idiot. He's not an idiot.

Dondilion · #**1848** 02-28-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99

If he doesn't see that his candidacy will split the anti-Trump vote and thus elect Trump, he's an idiot. He's not an idiot.

Most definitely he does not want to elect Trump...Trump did not survive the litmus test: Trump says he wants to be an honest broker re any Israeli/Palestinian negotiation.

For Bloomy that is a big NO, NO.

finnbow · #**1849** 02-28-2016, 12:05 PM

Former CIA director Michael Hayden believes there is a legitimate possibility that the U.S. military would refuse to follow orders given by Donald Trump if the Republican front-runner becomes president and decides to make good on certain campaign pledges.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...mes-president/

bobabode · #**1850** 02-28-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

Former CIA director Michael Hayden believes there is a legitimate possibility that the U.S. military would refuse to follow orders given by Donald Trump if the Republican front-runner becomes president and decides to make good on certain campaign pledges.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...mes-president/

Bill Maher almost fell out of his chair when Gen. Hayden explained the concept of refusing to follow 'unlawful orders'.