The Cruz Surge

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Politicians are experts at selling themselves to the voting public with very good powers of persuasion and coercion. Preachers on the other hand are selling a myth that some may find hard to believe or accept.

So... you don't think politicians are selling myths that some find hard to believe and accept?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

So... you don't think politicians are selling myths that some find hard to believe and accept?

A concept, a philosophy or a school of thought. You may find it hard to accept but it's not a myth. It's real, people experience and live in it every day.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

A concept, a philosophy or a school of thought. You may find it hard to accept but it's not a myth. It's real, people experience and live in it every day.

Any concept or philosophy or school of thought that is false, is a myth. Politicians spout myths all the time.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Any concept or philosophy or school of thought that is false, is a myth. Politicians spout myths all the time.

I think you need to look up the meaning of that word.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I think you need to look up the meaning of that word.

I don't think I do, but just this once, I'll look it up for you, since you seem to need help.

myth
miTH/Submit
noun
1.
a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.
synonyms: folk tale, folk story, legend, tale, story, fable, saga, mythos, lore, folklore, mythology
"ancient Greek myths"
2.
a widely held but false belief or idea.
"he wants to dispel the myth that sea kayaking is too risky or too strenuous"

[donquixote99]

Your dictionary misses a lot. The most important thing about myths is they create identity and meaning. As such, they are all at least quasi-religious.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Your dictionary misses a lot. The most important thing about myths is they create identity and meaning. As such, they are all at least quasi-religious.

My dictionary recognizes two definitions. You recognize one. So that means my dictionary is missing a lot?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Any concept or philosophy or school of thought that is false, is a myth. Politicians spout myths all the time.

Politicians are selling snake oil, so not to be trusted. Bush & Neocons selling the Iraq war for instance disastrous results.

A myth on the other hand cannot be verified yet people believe in them, for example the Islamic Jihad.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Politicians are selling snake oil, so not to be trusted. Bush & Neocons selling the Iraq war for instance disastrous results.

A myth on the other hand cannot be verified yet people believe in them, for example the Islamic Jihad.

"Saddam has WMDs". Could not be verified, yet many people believed it.
"Cost of your health insurance will not go up". Could not be verified, yet many people believed in it.
"I did not have sex with that woman". Could not be verified, yet many people believed in it.
"I will build a big beautiful wall". Can not be verified, yet many people believe in it. This one's not yet a myth, but well on it's way.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

"Saddam has WMDs". Could not be verified, yet many people believed it.

Largely debunked by the testimony of high ranking defectors from Saddam's regime, the UNSCOM inspection team and by the fact that we never found any once we had the opportunity to look for ourselves.

"Cost of your health insurance will not go up". Could not be verified, yet many people believed in it.

From your perspective, a lie. Really, though, it's an unkept promise but it's not a myth.

"I did not have sex with that woman". Could not be verified, yet many people believed in it.

A lie by most interpretations but not a myth.

"I will build a big beautiful wall". Can not be verified, yet many people believe in it. This one's not yet a myth, but well on it's way.

Another promise, and a boastful one, of something to be done in the future so, it has the opportunity of being a broken promise or, though very unlikely, a promise kept but not a myth.