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02-16-2016, 09:20 AM
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Yup. Dems good, GOP bad. Must not stray from the company line.
That's some primo objective, critical thinking you're engaging in there pal.
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Ah, so you got nothing to add. If there was one thing or person that caused the crash it was the advice of Alan Greenspan more than anything else. And yes I will vote Democrat if that's the choice of two, The GOP since Reagan keeps crashing our economy when in office and I won't vote for more until they become fiscally responsible.
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02-16-2016, 09:21 AM
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Neither Hillary or the rest of the world would have backed us up if GWB had not lied to us.
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I could see plain as day back in the fall of 2002 that he was lying his ass off about Iraq, so I'm sure as Hell sure Hillary knew it too.
I had him pegged as an Evil lying son of a bitch from the first time I saw that smarmy little smirk of his in the first Republican debate back in 2000. There is nothing I hate more than a smirker. William Kristol is another one. Chris Wallace is yet another one.
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02-16-2016, 09:40 AM
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I could see plain as day back in the fall of 2002 that he was lying his ass off about Iraq, so I'm sure as Hell sure Hillary knew it too.
I had him pegged as an Evil lying son of a bitch from the first time I saw that smarmy little smirk of his in the first Republican debate back in 2000. It was instant hate.
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It seemed to me like he had a huge chip on his shoulder that Saddam tried to have his daddy whacked. He had a grudge to settle and he settled it all right.
Hillary is no better. The lives of our troops mean nothing to her. They'd just be pawns. She truly thinks she's of a better species than us mere mortals.
We had our chance with Ron Paul and we blew it.
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02-16-2016, 10:23 AM
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The point is that many Democrats in Congress voted in favor of the Iraq war, including Hillary.
What do Republican feels on Glass_Steagall have to do with the fact that it was Bill Clinton who repealed it?
I've been called a racist, xeonophobe sexist etc etc so many times that it's an instinctual reaction. If you want context search for the Greenwald video on youtube yourself.
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Yup. Dems good, GOP bad. Must not stray from the company line.
That's some primo objective, critical thinking you're engaging in there pal.
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“Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders’ equity, myself included, are in a state of shocked disbelief,” he told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
Now 82, Mr. Greenspan came in for one of the harshest grillings of his life, as Democratic lawmakers asked him time and again whether he had been wrong, why he had been wrong and whether he was sorry.
Critics, including many economists, now blame the former Fed chairman for the financial crisis that is tipping the economy into a potentially deep recession. Mr. Greenspan’s critics say that he encouraged the bubble in housing prices by keeping interest rates too low for too long and that he failed to rein in the explosive growth of risky and often fraudulent mortgage lending.
“You had the authority to prevent irresponsible lending practices that led to the subprime mortgage crisis. You were advised to do so by many others,” said Representative Henry A. Waxman of California, chairman of the committee. “Do you feel that your ideology pushed you to make decisions that you wish you had not made?”
Mr. Greenspan conceded: “Yes, I’ve found a flaw. I don’t know how significant or permanent it is. But I’ve been very distressed by that fact.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/bu...anel.html?_r=0
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Alan Greenspan Salary How much did Alan Greenspan make as Chairman of the Federal Reserve? $180,000 Alan Greenspan is an American economist, he has a net worth of $10 million. Alan Greenspan has earned his net worth as his former Chairman of the Federal Reserve of the United States, position he held from 1987 to 2006. Currently he owns his own consulting company called Greenspan Associates LLC, he works as a private advisor and he provides firms with consulting services. President Ronald Reagan first appointed to the Chairman position in August 1987, and reappointed at successive four-year intervals until retiring on January 31, 2006 after the second-longest tenure in the position. He was born in the Washington Heights area of New York City, on March 6, 1926. His father was of Romanian-Jewish descent Herbert Greenspan, and his mother Rose Goldsmith of Hungarian-Jewish descent. Greenspan describes himself as a "lifelong libertarian Republican", he was married to an artist named Joan Mitchell in 1952; the marriage ended in annulment less than a year later. He then married journalist Andrea Mitchell in 1997 the ceremony was performed by Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Greenspan received the highest civilian award in the United States, by President George W. Bush in November 2005.the award is called the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Some of Greenspan's most honorary titles include Commander of the French Legion d'honneur (Legion of Honor, 2000) and Knight Commander of the British Empire (2002). In 2006, Greenspan was awarded the Department of Defense Medal for distinguished Public Service. Greenspan received the Dwight D. Eisenhower Medal for Leadership and Service, in 2004, from Eisenhower Fellowships. He is also the first of the Harry S. Truman Medal for Economic Policy, presented by the Harry S. Truman Library Institute in 2005. Also in 2005 on December 14th, Greespan received an honorary Doctor of Commercial Science degree by NYU, his fourth degree from that institution. In 2007 he was presented by the University of Virginia, the inaugural Thomas Jefferson Foundation Medal in Citizen Leadership.
Alan Greenspan (/'ael?n '?ri:nspaen/; born March 6, 1926) is an American economist who served as Chairman of the Federal Reserve of the United States from 1987 to 2006. He currently works as a private adviser and provides consulting for firms through his company, Greenspan Associates LLC. First appointed Federal Reserve chairman by President Ronald Reagan in August 1987, he was reappointed at successive four-year intervals until retiring on January 31, 2006 after the second-longest tenure in the position.
Greenspan came to the Federal Reserve Board from a successful consulting career, holding political views influenced by Ayn Rand. Although he was subdued in his public appearances, favorable media coverage raised his profile to a point that several observers likened him to a "rock star". Democratic leaders of Congress criticized him for politicizing his office because of his support for Social Security privatization and tax cuts that they felt would increase the deficit. The easy-money policies of the Fed during Greenspan's tenure has been suggested to be a leading cause of the subprime mortgage crisis, which occurred within months of his departure from the Fed, and has, said the Wall Street Journal, "tarnished his image".
http://www.getnetworth.com/alan-greenspan-net-worth/
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Maybe you need to correct these people about it being all Clinton's fault.
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02-16-2016, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Coolidge23
It seemed to me like he had a huge chip on his shoulder that Saddam tried to have his daddy whacked. He had a grudge to settle and he settled it all right.
Hillary is no better. The lives of our troops mean nothing to her. They'd just be pawns. She truly thinks she's of a better species than us mere mortals.
We had our chance with Ron Paul and we blew it.
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Why do you make such definitive proclamations?
We had a choice with Rand Paul? Mouse in your pocket is squeaking again.
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02-16-2016, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Coolidge23
It seemed to me like he had a huge chip on his shoulder that Saddam tried to have his daddy whacked. He had a grudge to settle and he settled it all right.
Hillary is no better. The lives of our troops mean nothing to her. They'd just be pawns. She truly thinks she's of a better species than us mere mortals.
We had our chance with Ron Paul and we blew it.
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Ron Paul was right on foreign policy, and wrong on everything else.
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02-16-2016, 10:42 AM
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The point is that many Democrats in Congress voted in favor of the Iraq war, including Hillary.
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Too many did. Way too many and it cost Hillary my vote in the 2008 primary.
But it wasn't a majority of the Democrats in congress.
However on the Republican side the percentage voting in favor of it was in the high 90's. So your lame attempt to shift the blame to the Democrats fails.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
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02-16-2016, 10:49 AM
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Ron Paul was right on foreign policy, and wrong on everything else.
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Putting a Libertarian in charge is just risking handing the rest of the country over to Wall St. Without a responsible adult in the room to effectively enforce rules of behavior, the bullies always take over in short order. Wall St has repeatedly demonstrated that it cannot be trusted to regulate itself.
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02-16-2016, 10:55 AM
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Ron Paul was right on foreign policy, and wrong on everything else.
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+1
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02-16-2016, 12:28 PM
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I told you he was too much of a Wuss.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...replace-scalia
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The White House says the president will not move to appoint a Supreme Court replacement for Justice Antonin Scalia while the Senate is in recess this week.
In an interview with ABC News, White House spokesman Eric Schultz said Obama would would wait to announce his nominee until Congress returns from its break later this month. In an email to NPR, Schultz said the White House had ruled out a recess appointment "this week."
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