South Carolina High School Student Dragged From Class

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The muddle headers want to give princess her "space".

The apologists want to label and marginalize the victim and her supporters

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Nothing this kid did justifies the manner in which this cop reacted.

Nothing justifies repeatedly saying she was slammed for texting. Nobody gets slammed for texting.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

The apologists want to label and marginalize the victim and her supporters

The disingenuous want to say she was slammed for texting. And the moronic say the school should let entitlement and oppositional personality and defiance rule.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Oerets

As unpopular as this my view will be, I feel the officer thou over acted in the little of the event we see. Still feel the actions taken were called for. Just like collateral damage with the fog of war, ugly but a fact none the less and hard to avoid.
The officer is the tip of the spear so should be the last resort taken and used. Called in to do a job and did it. Would the result been any different if they left her there and called the police? The student caused this by failing to follow the rules and authority should be expelled from school. Period! End of story. Actions with such results would quickly stop any further occurrences from happening again IMO.

Sorry but I never need to lay a hand on either of my sons, but was willing to and they knew it. The fear of this made them aware of bad acts and consequences.

BTW what good purpose is served by having students and cell phones in a classroom? They should be placed into a big box when entering class and retrieved at the end of class. At the very least on silent and kept out of sight or then taken away till the end of the day if not followed.



Barney

Well said Barney.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Nothing this kid did justifies the manner in which this cop reacted.

Precisely. Actions leading up to the the cop being officially summoned to evict the female student from the class is I assume standard procedure.

So at this point, the cop is the ultimate arbiter and is expected to use his knowledge and training to diffuse the standoff and escort the student out. For some inexplicable reason, he decided to take extreme physical action. He could have easily held her in a bear hug from behind even if she was indeed pummeling him with her fists. So this take down desk and all was strictly an action taken by the cop and very little to do with school procedures or the level of misconduct by the offending student.

The cop was fired by his boss almost immediately and the case is closed. I expect that the school board will settle her lawsuit out of court and she will feel vindicated yet not learn anything from this experience. As to the rest of the student body, no idea what this experience will teach them.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Name calling and mocking reframing of the position of others. That's the way to win an argument!

Don takes posession of the interpersonal high ground...as irony rears it's ugly zit-covered head.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Precisely. Actions leading up to the the cop being officially summoned to evict the female student from the class is I assume standard procedure.

So at this point, the cop is the ultimate arbiter and is expected to use his knowledge and training to diffuse the standoff and escort the student out. For some inexplicable reason, he decided to take extreme physical action. He could have easily held her in a bear hug from behind even if she was indeed pummeling him with her fists. So this take down desk and all was strictly an action taken by the cop and very little to do with school procedures or the level of misconduct by the offending student.

The cop was fired by his boss almost immediately and the case is closed. I expect that the school board will settle her lawsuit out of court and she will feel vindicated yet not learn anything from this experience. As to the rest of the student body, no idea what this experience will teach them.

I don't think anybody is arguing that Fields made a mistake that he has already paid for with the loss of his job. Even though this kid is a self-indulgent little miscreant, everybody involved is going to get sued which is the reason why western civilization would have been well advised to take Shakespeare's advice about lawyers a long time ago.

I suspect the kid will learn nothing unless there are some extended family members somewhere who won't let her get away with it, even though she's generated a big payday for the family.

And...it's good to hear another person on this forum who isn't trying to blame the school personnel for any of this. They acted exactly as they are responsible to act in such circumstances.

That said...physically resist a cop in the course of his/her duties and getting dumped out of a chair for it seems considerably less than an atrocity to me.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Don takes posession of the interpersonal high ground...and irony rears it's ugly zit-covered head.

Ike, you have no business commenting on anyone's familiarity with "the interpersonal high ground".

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

.......... which is the reason why western civilization would have been well advised to take Shakespeare's advice about lawyers a long time ago.

Shakespeare never advised anyone to kill a single lawyer.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Nothing this kid did justifies the manner in which this cop reacted.

Agreed. At NO point was his life in danger. The only physical threat anyone posed against anyone else in that entire scene started when he assaulted the girl and threw her to the floor. His firing was the correct action and now he should be charged with assault. Should he have been assertive? Yes. Forceful? Within reason, perhaps. But, what he did was assault her. His actions went WAY beyond the pale.