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10-27-2015, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
All I know is what I saw in the video, which isn't much. But, what I saw does seem excessive. I have a hard time believing it took that much force to extract her from the seat and restrain her.
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The police lost his cool. I tend to sympathize with him.
Situation like this calls for spe@ialists especially since the student is female.
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10-27-2015, 07:06 PM
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yes the cop clearly lost it, and if that was not excessive force then someone please explain it to me.
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10-27-2015, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
The police lost his cool. I tend to sympathize with him.
Situation like this calls for spe@ialists especially since the student is female.
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He is a "spe(ialist". He's a trained police officer and has been serving as a "School Resource Officer" for quite a while. Why on earth do you feel sorry for him and, judging from your words, only him?
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10-27-2015, 07:25 PM
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But Sheriff Lott, who said he was “very disturbed” by what happened, said that he was more focused on the deputy’s conduct than the student’s.
“Even though she was wrong for disturbing the class, even though she refused to abide by the directions of the teacher, the school administrator and also the verbal commands of our deputy, I’m looking at what our deputy did,” Sheriff Lott said.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/28/us...er-arrest.html
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10-27-2015, 07:43 PM
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Deputy Fields has been suspended without pay. His boss must have found a damn good reason to do that. These guys usually get temporarily reassigned or put on administrative leave with pay.
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One of the videos from inside the math classroom at Spring Valley High School shows the student resisting, according to Lott.
"When the officer puts his hands on her initially, she reaches up and she pops the officer with her fist," he said.
Still, he stressed, his focus is on the behavior of the officer, Deputy Ben Fields, who has been suspended without pay since the Monday incident.
Lott said he expects to make a decision within the next 24 hours about the officer's continued employment.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/us/sou...-arrest-video/
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But he still can't resist trying to imply that the victim is to blame for her own mistreatment.
Watch this video. From it it's clear that the girl did not "pop" Fields with her fist. She did raise her arm but her "fist", really her open hand, never contacted the cop. It looked more as if she was flailing for some sort of support to keep herself from falling over backward.
Note: none of this will make the slightest difference to our resident flower arranger.
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10-27-2015, 07:47 PM
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I stand corrected. I got caught up in the flow of the conversation.
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No problem...just didn't want you to think I was going after you for no reason.
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10-27-2015, 07:48 PM
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This is Zeke speak.
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This is TJ speak. But go ahead on, John...fuck with me. The last thing we want is for this joint to become a totally barren source of amusement.
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10-27-2015, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
All I know is what I saw in the video, which isn't much. But, what I saw does seem excessive. I have a hard time believing it took that much force to extract her from the seat and restrain her.
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We'll get to see the whole video at some point. There were at least to smartphones recording the whole thing. A school doesn't call in the cops for no reason. We all know this girl decided that nobody was going to tell her to get off her phone or whatever it might have been that she was doing to disrupt the class.
I live with a woman who spent over 15 years in a classroom settings that make this place look like a walk on the beach on a sunny summer afternoon. The last thing a teacher or an assistant principal is gonna do is let some punk-ass privileged character look like she can get away with jamming up the classroom process whenever she feels like it. Seems to me every kid in that class and all their friends knows that for sure now.
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10-27-2015, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
We'll get to see the whole video at some point. There were at least to smartphones recording the whole thing. A school doesn't call in the cops for no reason. We all know this girl decided that nobody was going to tell her to get off her phone or whatever it might have been that she was doing to disrupt the class.
I live with a woman who spent over 15 years in a classroom settings that make this place look like a walk on the beach on a sunny summer afternoon. The last thing a teacher or an assistant principal is gonna do is let some punk-ass privileged character look like she can get away with jamming up the classroom process whenever she feels like it. Seems to me every kid in that class and all their friends knows that for sure now.
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Latest reports, linked to in some of my earlier posts, are that the girl was being "verbally disruptive". Also linked to earlier is a raw video of the incident, including slow-mo, that pretty conclusively shows that the cop yanked her left arm off the chair, put her in a choke hold and pitched her and her chair over backward onto the floor.
She could have split her freakin' head open on the floor.
Then he threw her from one end of the room to the other before making any attempt to restrain her.
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