Poor Ben.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Nope! It's not a lie. Nobody argues that it's not a strategy used by Hamas. It is but it doesn't account for all of the civilian casualties, as you imply, or even most.

You don't seem to be able to disagree with another's opinion without first distorting it. This is the sign of a weak position. I suppose I have to give you a little credit for realizing that you're not on solid ground here.

And I'll see your biased opinion piece on the WSJ with another biased opinion piece, as it happens, about yours.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...Death-Strategy

I only got through the first two words and knew how fucked up the rest would be.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yeah, well except for Muslims. Right, Ike? They're all vermin. Cockroaches. Every last one deserves to be exterminated. Right, Ike?

I don't think you'll find the words vermin or cockroaches coming out of me in this thread. And in fact I've said I don't want anybody dead, right here in this thread. So perhaps you might want to go retrieve whatever integrity you might once have had, from out of your other pants.

Right, John?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

And another more balanced one.

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/22/the_...off_the_rails/

I've never cared much for the smug utterances of Matt Bruenig.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I don't think you'll find the words vermin or cockroaches coming out of me in this thread. And in fact I've said I don't want anybody dead, right here in this thread. So perhaps you might want to go retrieve whatever integrity you might once have had, from out of your other pants.

Right, John?

"In this thread"? Qualify much? Do you deny you've never used this kind of dehumanizing rhetoric in other threads here?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I only got through the first two words and knew how fucked up the rest would be.

This, on the other hand, is entirely un-fucked up and even handed.

"Let's state the obvious: No one likes to see dead children. Well, that's not completely true: Hamas does. They would prefer those children to be Jewish, but there is greater value to them if they are Palestinian."

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I've never cared much for the smug utterances of Matt Bruenig.

Of course, your op-ed was totally factual and objective!

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

"In this thread"? Qualify much? Do you deny you've never used this kind of dehumanizing rhetoric in other threads here?

Here's the thing John...you want to suggest that I consider all Muslims as vermin and cockroaches...when I've been exceedingly clear that it's just the jihadists that I consider to be no better than vermin and cockroaches. In fact, just to let you know I'm not completely heartless, I caught a vermin (is the singular of vermin not also vermin?) in our weekend place out by the south shore of Lake Michigan Saturday night with help from the cats, and threw the furry little vermin varmint out in the dune rather than smashing it's head flat like a fucking vermin member of Hamas would deserve. As you can see...I find vermin critters to be actually superior beings to human vermin like Hamas, ISIS, etc.

Because John, every member of every jihadist outfit like Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, Boko Haram, Fatah, etc., etc., is guilty of complicity in every murder committed by that uh...organization. The lucky ones get a trial before having their head smashed flat, the rest of them just get blown to shreds by a juicy Israeli Maverick missile.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Of course, your op-ed was totally factual and objective!

I dunno how factual and objective it was. It's an opinion I agree with, and I like the guy who wrote the op-ed I posted. I don't like Matt Bruenig. Smug little rat-bastard Matt Bruenig's opinions suck.

Nothing is factual John. You must know that. Particularly nothing posted in a joint like this. It's all opinion. You got yours...I got mine. So don't get all fucking arrogant on me and start suggesting, or even thinking, that you have any facts.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Because John, every member of every jihadist outfit like Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, Boko Haram, Fatah, etc., etc., is guilty of complicity in every murder committed by that uh...organization. The lucky ones get a trial before having their head smashed flat, the rest of them just get blown to shreds by a juicy Israeli Maverick missile.

I've asked you this question before but you didn't answer. This seems like an opportune time to ask again.

Would you have been in favor of having every member of the Wehrmacht and/or every member of the Nazi Party "having their heads smashed flat" or being "blown to shreds" at the conclusion of WWII?

Please answer this time.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I dunno how factual and objective it was. It's an opinion I agree with, and I like the guy who wrote the op-ed I posted. I don't like Matt Bruenig. Smug little rat-bastard Matt Bruenig's opinions suck.

Nothing is factual John. You must know that. Particularly nothing posted in a joint like this. It's all opinion. You got yours...I got mine. So don't get all fucking arrogant on me and start suggesting, or even thinking, that you have any facts.

Arrogant? See above.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I dunno how factual and objective it was. It's an opinion I agree with, and I like the guy who wrote the op-ed I posted. I don't like Matt Bruenig. Smug little rat-bastard Matt Bruenig's opinions suck.

Nothing is factual John. You must know that. Particularly nothing posted in a joint like this. It's all opinion. You got yours...I got mine. So don't get all fucking arrogant on me and start suggesting, or even thinking, that you have any facts.

So there's no point ever in doing anything but name-calling? Whoever calls someone a rat-bastard the loudest wins?

You are not worth the keystrokes when you've been backed-into making arguments like this. We are right, you are wrong, and you know it. No more need be said, and no more will be said by me.