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Old 10-23-2015, 07:52 AM
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You're right. The Israeli Death Wish does not compare with the Islamic Death Wish.

Or does it?
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:22 AM
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You're right. The Israeli Death Wish does not compare with the Islamic Death Wish.

Or does it?
You want to compare death? WTF do Islamics know about persecution and genocide compared with the 2000 years of Jewish experience in dealing with the rest of the world? Now the Jews have had enough of it, they've been reminded that they're on their own, and in response to the actions they've taken to stay alive, the rest of the world is telling them that they're racists with a death wish. Hey! Bibi...you people just need to trust us. There's a sick fucking joke.
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But nevermind all that. Your last few posts indicate that your just all upset now, DQ. Should we take a break for a while?

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Old 10-23-2015, 08:51 AM
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...handed them a wad of gefilte fish on a bialy.
They might deserve to die in that case!
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:37 AM
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They might deserve to die in that case!
I grew up in a family of people who would mangia that disgusting stuff like it was dark Belgian chocolate.
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:08 AM
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You want to compare death? WTF do Islamics know about persecution and genocide compared with the 2000 years of Jewish experience in dealing with the rest of the world? Now the Jews have had enough of it, they've been reminded that they're on their own, and in response to the actions they've taken to stay alive, the rest of the world is telling them that they're racists with a death wish. Hey! Bibi...you people just need to trust us. There's a sick fucking joke.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers.htm


But nevermind all that. Your last few posts indicate that your just all upset now, DQ. Should we take a break for a while?
Good, you quoted something that's true. I'm not exactly a Christian-lover these days, but I've always disliked the dishonesty and sectarian hate-mongering of the 'Hitler was a Christian' line.

A break is fine, but don't project your upset on me. I'm just swell, thanks.
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:24 AM
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:18 PM
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You want them all hurt? How many dead do you want?
Every last member of Hamas that engages in war, terrorism and hatred. Then perhaps the remaining Palestinians and Israelis can live in peace.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:47 PM
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But everyone hates their enemies. It's the war emotion. It was fuels the 'want them dead' wish.

And it always feels right and necessary and only sensible, when one is doing it oneself....
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Old 10-23-2015, 01:16 PM
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But everyone hates their enemies. It's the war emotion. It was fuels the 'want them dead' wish.

And it always feels right and necessary and only sensible, when one is doing it oneself....
They're not my enemies. I don't live in Israel.

Your question is like asking how many members of the Nazi Party would you want to die? Or how many members of ISIS should die?

Answer is all of them that deserve it, which is probably most.
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Old 10-23-2015, 02:05 PM
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They're not my enemies. I don't live in Israel.

Your question is like asking how many members of the Nazi Party would you want to die? Or how many members of ISIS should die?

Answer is all of them that deserve it, which is probably most.
It's not really my intent to pick on you personally, to say you have nasty emotions or something. I just want people to think about war and peace and the emotional states that cause and effect war. Did the Nazis, do Hamas or ISIS, as groups, contain bad acting people for whose deaths we may wish? Undoubtedly.

Do we become like these people when we so wish? What do we then do? What happens after that?

I want to go deeper into causes and solutions. It is too simple to just say 'look how awful our enemies are' and think 'we are good they are bad,' and that nothing more need be said.
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