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Old 10-09-2015, 11:38 AM
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Every President and politician changes their stride to match the times...FDR was famous for talking out of both sides of his mouth, as it were. I would have Hillary over any of the idiots the GOP has for frontrunners right now. You see how low information fellow Republicans have begun to make the GOP unelectable. Just look at the House of Representatives.
As would I. However, recent polls show a weakened Hillary trailing most of them in the swing states. Therein lies the problem.
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As would I. However, recent polls show a weakened Hillary trailing most of them in the swing states. Therein lies the problem.
Over a year out from the election, polls are pretty worthless at this stage of the game except to us political junkies. When McCarthy's 'McKinley gaffe' filters down to the prols, I expect Hills numbers to bounce back up. I'll bet she sees another bump after the Oct.22 appearance in front of Trey's BEGHAAAAAZI! committee.

I like the eminently verbose David Brooks for a conservative wordsmith but he is still the enemy...
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:30 PM
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Over a year out from the election, polls are pretty worthless at this stage of the game except to us political junkies. When McCarthy's 'McKinley gaffe' filters down to the prols, I expect Hills numbers to bounce back up. I'll bet she sees another bump after the Oct.22 appearance in front of Trey's BEGHAAAAAZI! committee....

It'll depend on her performance before the committee. (and the willingness of media to report it) and on the amount of help the Democrats on the committee are able to provide.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:35 PM
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Is the WashPost editorial board also the enemy?

Hillary Clinton has come out against President Obama’s freshly negotiated Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement. The most hopeful thing to be said about this deeply disappointing abandonment of the president she served, and the internationalist tendency in Democratic ideology she once embodied, is that it is so transparently political.

There is no way that Ms. Clinton can oppose the 12-nation deal on its merits. In part, that’s because she doesn’t know all the details, as she acknowledged. More to the point, the reasons she offered for her view could not have been convincing, even to her. There was nothing in the deal about alleged currency manipulation by U.S. trading partners, she complained. Yet the biggest manipulator, China, isn’t a party to the pact...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...f92_story.html
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Is the WashPost editorial board also the enemy?

Hillary Clinton has come out against President Obama’s freshly negotiated Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement. The most hopeful thing to be said about this deeply disappointing abandonment of the president she served, and the internationalist tendency in Democratic ideology she once embodied, is that it is so transparently political.

There is no way that Ms. Clinton can oppose the 12-nation deal on its merits. In part, that’s because she doesn’t know all the details, as she acknowledged. More to the point, the reasons she offered for her view could not have been convincing, even to her. There was nothing in the deal about alleged currency manipulation by U.S. trading partners, she complained. Yet the biggest manipulator, China, isn’t a party to the pact...


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Sometimes. Freddie Hiatt has a distinctly rightward tilt, imo.
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Old 10-09-2015, 01:03 PM
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Sometimes. Freddie Hiatt has a distinctly rightward tilt, imo.
If you don't perceive Hillary as a person willing to do or say anything including changing a long held position she advocated for, as long as she (or a focus group) determines that it will further her ambitions, you need to make an appointment with an optometrist. I'm not sure she has any core beliefs other than fulfilling her own ambitions.
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Is the WashPost editorial board also the enemy?

Hillary Clinton has come out against President Obama’s freshly negotiated Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement. The most hopeful thing to be said about this deeply disappointing abandonment of the president she served, and the internationalist tendency in Democratic ideology she once embodied, is that it is so transparently political.

There is no way that Ms. Clinton can oppose the 12-nation deal on its merits. In part, that’s because she doesn’t know all the details, as she acknowledged. More to the point, the reasons she offered for her view could not have been convincing, even to her. There was nothing in the deal about alleged currency manipulation by U.S. trading partners, she complained. Yet the biggest manipulator, China, isn’t a party to the pact...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...f92_story.html
Truly absurd.
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If you don't perceive Hillary as a person willing to do or say anything including changing a long held position she advocated for, as long as she (or a focus group) determines that it will further her ambitions, you need to make an appointment with an optometrist. I'm not sure she has any core beliefs other than fulfilling her own ambitions.
If you don't see that you're overstating Hillary's embodiment of a characteristic which is contained in the tool kit of every politician in every country in the world, it would be a waste of time for you to make an appointment with any sort of spe(ialist.
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If you don't see that you're overstating Hillary's embodiment of a characteristic which is contained in the tool kit of every politician in every country in the world, it would be a waste of time for you to make an appointment with any sort of spe(ialist.
I simply cannot detect a shred of sincerity in anything she does.
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Truly absurd.
What's absurd is her coming out against the TPP for the contrived and irrelevant reason of currency manipulation (China isn't part of the pact) after having vocally supported the TPP on 45 occasions.

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